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Topic	Do you ever hate characters for being too perfect?
Naruto_fan_42 11/21/20 2:06:33 PM #51:	adjl posted... Sure he would have. He's still a competent fighter, even with his injuries, and between his personal attachment to Shulk (who's all but his son-in-law, with all the paternalistic protective drive that entails), his compulsion to try playing the hero even if it wasn't the best idea, and sharing 100% of Shulk's motivations for setting out in the first place (namely, ~~seeking revenge against the Mechon for killing Fiora~~), it would be downright implausible if he hadn't joined them in some capacity. Youre contradicting yourself. What do you think he should have done? You say its impossible for him not to join the heroes and then you say that he cant be a hero. They almost got him killed twice, on-camera (once in the prologue, then again during the attack on Colony 9), with at least one more instance being revealed through a Heart-to-Heart (he talks about fleeing with Fiora during a mechon attack years prior, but going back into the house to retrieve a keepsake she wanted despite the danger). The argument can also easily be made that he's taking a similar risk by joining Shulk's adventure despite his injuries, though he doesn't end up suffering any more near-death experiences than the rest of the party for it. The prologue was out of desperation. If he hadnt almost got himself killed Bionis would be swarmed with Mechon. Same thing with the raid, he went and got the Monado even though he wasnt strong enough to use it because he was desperate to defend the colony. (though her regrets about being reckless tend to focus more on not wanting Shulk to worry than on Dunban's safety) (stepping away from the question of whether or not it was reasonable for Shulk to intervene and ignoring the wholesale slaughter of Face units in the late game). Youre contradicting yourself again. Why do you make this argument if youre just going to argue back at yourself as me? Back story is still story, and is no less significant a part of character development than stuff that happens on-screen. Mumkhar and Gadolt both got sold short because most of their story was backstory or happened off-camera. And when they finally do get some development they die right after. All Mumkhar ever did on-camera was try to murder Shulk and Dunban, but the game hints to a backstory not explored anywhere. Gadolt had that flashback where hes shooting at the Mechon wreckage, and thats about it. --- show my boi Daruk some love d00ds <cite>Naruto_fan_42 posted [p:947440736] in Do you eve... [t:79121722]...</cite> <quote>adjl posted... </cite> <quote>Sure he would have. He's still a competent fighter, even with his injuries, and between his personal attachment to Shulk (who's all but his son-in-law, with all the paternalistic protective drive that entails), his compulsion to try playing the hero even if it wasn't the best idea, and sharing 100% of Shulk's motivations for setting out in the first place (namely, seeking revenge against the Mechon for killing Fiora), it would be downright implausible if he hadn't joined them in some capacity.</quote>Youre contradicting yourself. What do you think he should have done? You say its impossible for him not to join the heroes and then you say that he cant be a hero. <quote>They almost got him killed twice, on-camera (once in the prologue, then again during the attack on Colony 9), with at least one more instance being revealed through a Heart-to-Heart (he talks about fleeing with Fiora during a mechon attack years prior, but going back into the house to retrieve a keepsake she wanted despite the danger). The argument can also easily be made that he's taking a similar risk by joining Shulk's adventure despite his injuries, though he doesn't end up suffering any more near-death experiences than the rest of the party for it. </quote>The prologue was out of desperation. If he hadnt almost got himself killed Bionis would be swarmed with Mechon. Same thing with the raid, he went and got the Monado even though he wasnt strong enough to use it because he was desperate to defend the colony. <quote>(though her regrets about being reckless tend to focus more on not wanting Shulk to worry than on Dunban's safety) (stepping away from the question of whether or not it was reasonable for Shulk to intervene and ignoring the wholesale slaughter of Face units in the late game). </quote>Youre contradicting yourself again. Why do you make this argument if youre just going to argue back at yourself as me? <quote>Back story is still story, and is no less significant a part of character development than stuff that happens on-screen.</quote>Mumkhar and Gadolt both got sold short because most of their story was backstory or happened off-camera. And when they finally do get some development they die right after. All Mumkhar ever did on-camera was try to murder Shulk and Dunban, but the game hints to a backstory not explored anywhere. Gadolt had that flashback where hes shooting at the Mechon wreckage, and thats about it. --- show my boi Daruk some love d00ds</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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