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OhhhJa posted...

The same group thats been rioting, burning businesses, assaulting people (some cases killing people), looting for the past 6 months now wants unity.

Interesting accusation. Can you point out when I did any of those things?

OhhhJa posted...

I'm not gonna say I think there's enough "impropriety and irregularities" to flip the election but it is odd how every "glitch" or "votes found" that were originally not counted or "data entry error" ALL have favored Biden. I mean, my goodness, what a happy little coincidence. That's why people don't trust the integrity of our election process this time around

Have you ever considered that that might have something to do with the fact that Trump has spent the last year insisting that the Democrats are plotting to steal the election by any means necessary, meaning he and his alt-media fan club (from which you get most of your news) have been desperately searching for any irregularities they can find that might possibly suggest that and will immediately report on them as being suspicious? While pretty much nobody has been making similar claims for the other side (aside from pointing out very obvious voter suppression efforts and the occasional concrete case of Trump-favouring fraud for which there is actually evidence), meaning similar irregularities that favour Trump have gone under the radar?

If you're looking that hard for something (especially something this vague), it's pretty easy to find a lot of things that look like it. That doesn't mean you've actually found it.

joemodda posted...

Also funny how people are so certain this election is secure when only a couple years ago those same people were shrieking about muh Russia

That wasn't so much an election security issue (although assessing the security of the election process was part of the Mueller investigation, which concluded the voting process itself was not tampered with) as it was a matter of interfering with the campaigning process. Regardless of who those interference efforts ended up favouring, it highlighted just how much potential social media has to allow foreign governments to interfere with countries' political processes, which was (and continues to be, though some countermeasures have been implemented) a significant problem.

Zeus_LLC posted...

I'm not sure it's possible to screen out fraudulent votes if they're detected after being counted. Even if the FBI tomorrow discovered a widescale operation where a massive amount of fraud had been committed, I'm not sure whether they could logistically negate votes. If the impact was enough to influence the state, I imagine they'd have to somehow re-hold the election in that state.

I basically just asked you what you want for dinner and you replied with "Napoleon was an arrogant fool." There is not a single part of my question that you actually answered with that reply. Please try again.

User728 posted...

Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia were extremely close.

Eh, I'd say only Georgia really qualifies as "extremely close," at a 0.3% difference, and they're already recounting (the results should be out this afternoon, actually). Wisconsin's 0.7%, and Pennsylvania is a very healthy 1.2%. Even in Georgia, that 0.3% difference is a lead of ~14,000 votes, and I don't think there's ever been an instance where a recount has changed the final tally by even a tenth of that.

User728 posted...

Wisconsin and Pennsylvania are two states where voter fraud rumors are rampant.

As I mentioned above, I'm pretty sure that's less because there's credible reason to believe (significant) fraud has happened and more because Trump started insisting that there must be fraud happening the moment it started looking like those were going to be key battleground states and that prompted people to latch onto any remote oddity as "proof" of shady dealings. Rumors are rampant, but evidence is not, which doesn't exactly suggest to me that there's any real chance of flipping.

User728 posted...

If (big if) fraud did occur, it definitely could have swayed the election.

Oh yeah, I'm certainly not going to definitively say that no fraud happened and there is absolutely no chance of the election flipping. Just that there's currently no evidence to suggest such a thing and therefore there's no reason to reject the apparent election outcome or believe so steadfastly in a Trump victory. There remains the possibility that something big did happen, but there also remains the possibility that an asteroid will strike D.C during the inauguration ceremony and kill them both. I can't definitively rule it out, but in the absence of evidence suggesting that I should, I'm also not going to definitively rule it in.

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