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As for Classic - it is a lot of fun. It's not nearly as painful as I was expecting - most quality of life issues that they fixed later are really not that much of a problem, and often add to the experience.

I'm strongly of the belief that removing too much friction from doing things in a game makes the experience a lot less satisfying. When I play WoW now, I feel no sense of progression or accomplishment in anything, and I feel like that in a lot of games. The social aspect is often missing because you just join a group and then leave it as soon as you are done, the other players might as well have been bots. Character progression is like a constant IV drip of points and marginal gear upgrades. world quests just giving you the same gear again but slightly higher item level infuriates me. My favourite part of the game is seeing "oh, that sick piece of gear can be obtained by killing that boss / completing that quest / maxing out that rep / crafting / making a darkmoon deck etc etc, I'll work towards that and feel satisfied when I get it!" and that's not how I feel playing retail wow at all now. Classic WoW was really good about that, even if there is a lot of junk gear that isn't used for anything at all.

So much of classic holds up. The classes are actually fairly well balanced (though some specs are unplayable). The art all holds up. The zones are honestly all beautifully crafted. I enjoy walking around these zones more than the zones they make today, honestly.

The gameplay and mechanics are all relatively easy. If you've played wow at a decent level then anything in Classic will seem easy. But that kinda makes sense - it was made at the time for what players were used to, and Blizzard has been adding more and more challenging ideas and mechanics over time. Players get used to those mechanics and so harder mechanics come next. When you go back to Classic... it's pretty easy. The only difficult part is if *everyone else* in the group can do the mechanics... which can be problem. Somehow, I think the average skill of the Classic player is rather low compared to many actively playing retail. So sometimes a group can struggle from that. But it is what it is.

The social aspect is important. You actually do have to look for groups in trade chat and its valuable to keep track of good healers and tanks to do groups with later. But you kinda have to put in your own work here. If you treat it like retail and every group is disposable, then you won't make any friends and might have a tough time getting groups. Like many, I think the Dungeon and Raid Finders have destroyed the social aspect of WoW of meeting new people, and Classic brings that back, but it only really goes as far as you are willing to take it. If you join a guild and make friends you could have a pretty good experience.

That's my biggest regret in classic. Instead of rolling with some real life friends, I chose to roll on a server with a 5 person group of extremely high level raiders (top 100 guild mythic raiders). These guys are the top of their game and they know it... and they are pretty dismissive of players they think aren't very good. I just played exclusively with them during levelling and at the end game dungeon stage, and then 3 of them quit. So I never really made any friends during that early part of the game and didn't end up in a guild. The 1 remaining guy had a connection with someone in a guild, so we joined that guild. The people in this guild (except for a couple really good players that are basically holding the entire guilds hand through everything) are not very good, and I don't particularly enjoy hanging around with them, so that hasn't been a good experience. The 1 remaining guy is *especially* contemptuous of bad players so he hates these people, but won't leave because of that connection he has here. So basically I feel like I should have cut myself loose from these guys long ago and gone my own way and found a group of people that I like to play with. That's kind of the whole point after all - Classic is a great way to forge those social connections, and I didn't do that here.

But I'm pretty much done with Classic at this point. I don't really want to keep playing it so I'm not going to try finding a new guild. I'm debating on if I want to do BC. It's very likely I will play when BC comes out somewhere fresh, since the launch of an expansion is always the best part of WoW and I love the initial gearing process. I might even take a week off work and go hard for a little while. I'm doubtful I'll commit to raiding throughout all of the tiers though - I honestly just don't care enough to commit that time every week for months or years. I cleared MC and BWL a ton of times and did AQ40 one time and I'm just good on that now.

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