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Topic	What will it take to have socialized healthcare?
Dynalo 11/10/20 8:23:52 AM #48:	Wanded posted... i didn't actually read whatever is in there i just sent the first article i stumbled upon to make clench happy but to answer what you say You expect us to watch god damn youtube clips when you won't even read articles you posted to defend your arguments? Really? Wanded posted... people aren't dying, i keep asking liberals for footage of people in dire need of medical attention where the hospital just goes "whelp no money, no treatment, bye!" and no one has yet to supply, that is because the system takes care of everyone. I'll go ahead and just requote what I said, since like your article, you also clearly didn't read what I posted. Dynalo posted... Dying because you can't afford treatment. Or getting treatment anyways and then declaring bankruptcy. Note the second sentence there where they still get treatment, but it throws them into financial ruin. And sometimes, like with cancers, they wait too long because "I don't feel that bad and can't afford to go to the doctors". By the time they do go it's too late. This IS well documented. Doctors aren't out there denying treatment. People are dying because they can't afford to even go and see them in the first place. Wanded posted... why not try lowering the price first via a free market, Because people still couldn't afford it. If you live paycheck to paycheck, any price above $0 is too much to go and see a doctor for an annual check up. Wanded posted... tax discounts Only works if you have the money up front and can wait for the tax discount. Therefore doesn't work for those people that are paycheck to paycheck. We agree price is the issue. We disagree on there being a way to fix it without government being involved and insurance going away entirely. Far more people struggle day to day with paying their bills than I believe you realize. I just want these people to be able to go to the doctor and not have to worry about how they'll pay for it. --- Assassins do it from behind. <cite>Dynalo posted [p:946984314] in What will ... [t:79095084]...</cite> <quote>Wanded posted... </cite> <quote>i didn't actually read whatever is in there i just sent the first article i stumbled upon to make clench happy but to answer what you say</quote> You expect us to watch god damn youtube clips when you won't even read articles you posted to defend your arguments? Really? Wanded posted... </cite> <quote>people aren't dying, i keep asking liberals for footage of people in dire need of medical attention where the hospital just goes "whelp no money, no treatment, bye!" and no one has yet to supply, that is because the system takes care of everyone.</quote> I'll go ahead and just requote what I said, since like your article, you also clearly didn't read what I posted. Dynalo posted... </cite> <quote>Dying because you can't afford treatment. Or getting treatment anyways and then declaring bankruptcy.</quote> Note the second sentence there where they still get treatment, but it throws them into financial ruin. And sometimes, like with cancers, they wait too long because "I don't feel that bad and can't afford to go to the doctors". By the time they do go it's too late. This IS well documented. Doctors aren't out there denying treatment. People are dying because they can't afford to even go and see them in the first place. Wanded posted... </cite> <quote>why not try lowering the price first via a free market,</quote> Because people still couldn't afford it. If you live paycheck to paycheck, any price above $0 is too much to go and see a doctor for an annual check up. Wanded posted... </cite> <quote>tax discounts</quote> Only works if you have the money up front and can wait for the tax discount. Therefore doesn't work for those people that are paycheck to paycheck. We agree price is the issue. We disagree on there being a way to fix it without government being involved and insurance going away entirely. Far more people struggle day to day with paying their bills than I believe you realize. I just want these people to be able to go to the doctor and not have to worry about how they'll pay for it. --- Assassins do it from behind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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