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Lightning Strikes
10/30/20 1:43:37 PM
#186:


red sox 777 posted...
Is this a joke? Weimar Germany had stronger democratic institutions than the US? The country whose democratic institutions lasted 13 years before collapsing had stronger institutions than the one which has lasted over 230 years, and is modeled in large part on a system (UK) that has lasted 800ish years?

You can argue that the UK/US system is not fair, but history has proven that it is extremely stable.

Except literally all that shows is that it doesn't matter how strong your institutions are if the right social conditions exist. That is my entire point.

There is absolutely nothing in the UK system that gives it any kind of stability. It is in reality one of the least stable systems because it has precisely one rule: parliament cannot bind future parliaments. Everything else is entirely in the hands of parliament, it is absolutely sovereign, and not represented by fair democratic systems. It is a disaster waiting to happen, and we're seeing some of that now with the sheer scope of the corruption that is happening. Not fascism, but deep, and more importantly open, corruption and there's nothing anybody can do about it.

The reason these systems lasted so long is because of social conditions, not political systems.

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