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Topic	Anagram Ranks Anything Star Wars-related with a Write-Up (spoilers)
Anagram 10/19/20 10:41:56 PM #333:	Mr Crispy posted... actually I was thinking more of the game, though even back when it came out and not knowing anything about the EU/fandom (and I still don't care) I thought it was kind of ridiculous to have such a big multimedia push for it with a bunch of tie ins when it was a story that didn't really need to be told in the first place yes. My mistake! It's an odd thing to have a big push for, though, yeah. Supreme Leader Snoke I remember when TFA came out, I was talking with a friend, and he said "It better turn out that Snoke is really tiny, and that's why he has a giant hologram," and I said "I thought the same thing." Turns out we gave Disney too much credit. Snoke turned out to be just another one of JJ Abrams' mystery boxes, which meant he was prime "ruining by Rian Johnson" fodder. Although, honestly, I can't imagine anything interesting coming of this character anyway. TFA presents him as a Palpatine clone, which in the most technical sense is true (since he was eventually revealed to be a clone made by Palpatine), but honestly, what could you have done with Snoke? I almost don't even blame Rian Johnson for killing him so pointlessly, but the way it was done is just so drawn out, with Snoke slowly narrating his own death in a twist you can see coming from a mile away. tl;dr nothing character. Original ANH Jabba Scene Completely ruins all of the mystique of Jabba. Building Jabba up as a space gangster Han is scared of is way better than Han meeting him and him turning out to just be a fat guy. Han Solo Walking On Jabba's Tail Likewise, the idea that Han would disrespect Jabba like this is dumb. I realize it was done because of the way the scene was shot rather than because Lucas wanted it, but dude, just cut the scene. David Prowse's Vader Voice Hilarity incarnate. The idea of the big bad Imperial enforcer and Dark Jedi sounding like just some random guy is amazing. It's not hard to see why it was changed. Jedi Council Honestly? I don't completely hate the Jedi Council. If you have to have a Jedi ruling body, which you do, I think Lucas did it about as well as it could have been done: a bunch of hippies sitting on pillows in a circle. Too bad that they're all portrayed as idiots, though. Darth Vader Making Puns If, before RO came out, you asked me which Star Wars character would have the least tolerance for bad puns, I would have said Darth Vader. I can imagine Han making a bad pun, even Palpatine, but not Vader. It's so, so bad. Poe Dameron AKA the most nothing of nothing characters. I love how Disney tries to pretend that Poe is a main character, like they planned for him to be one of the core three. He's clearly just a character they invented in TFA to have someone we recognize fighting Starkiller Base or whatever it's called. Now, in complete fairness, Poe does get more to do in the later movies. Too bad that he's involved in the worst plotline in TLJ (the Admiral Holdo one), where he proves he's the biggest idiot ever. Also, he opens the movie with a literal yo momma joke, which is another point against him. Like, honestly, what do you want me to say about Poe? I think Disney wanted him to be the face of the Resistance, but he's a complete nothing character. Racist Alien Caricatures I don't believe Lucas is racist, but man, he really needed someone to go over his work before submitting it. If it was just one thing, we could all look past it, but you have Watto, the Trade Federation guys, and Jar-Jar all in one movie. I can accept that it's just a horrible coincidence and that Lucas wasn't thinking about anything, but really, maybe he needs to think a little more. Prince Xizor So he's a cunning gangster who lies and scrapes at the Emperor's feet, but is actually in charge of the most powerful criminal gang ever, to the point where he's almost at the same level of power? ... I can imagine this guy being really good in a storytelling context, like in individual stories, but I'm not crazy about the idea of any criminal organization being that powerful. Although I accept that Wookieepedia may have built him up too much. Jedi Mind Trick It's strange how ANH introduces all of these Jedi things that don't really get used. Lightsabers never even show up after the Obi-Wan/Vader duel! Same with the Jedi Mind Trick, it's used twice in the OT, once in ANH and once in RotJ. For such a powerful ability, it plays almost no role in the series. Even in the PT, it's used like once per movie, never in an important context. I think the most important Jedi Mind Trick usage is Rey getting herself released in TFA? Conceptually, it's a great idea. "The Force can have a powerful influence on the weak-minded." It makes total sense, too. Great use of a psychic power. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005 <cite>Anagram posted [p:946058922] in Anagram Ra... [t:79033688]...</cite> <quote>Mr Crispy posted... </cite> <quote>actually I was thinking more of the game, though even back when it came out and not knowing anything about the EU/fandom (and I still don't care) I thought it was kind of ridiculous to have such a big multimedia push for it with a bunch of tie ins when it was a story that didn't really need to be told in the first place yes.</quote>My mistake! It's an odd thing to have a big push for, though, yeah. Supreme Leader Snoke I remember when TFA came out, I was talking with a friend, and he said "It better turn out that Snoke is really tiny, and that's why he has a giant hologram," and I said "I thought the same thing." Turns out we gave Disney too much credit. Snoke turned out to be just another one of JJ Abrams' mystery boxes, which meant he was prime "ruining by Rian Johnson" fodder. Although, honestly, I can't imagine anything interesting coming of this character anyway. TFA presents him as a Palpatine clone, which in the most technical sense is true (since he was eventually revealed to be a clone made by Palpatine), but honestly, what could you have done with Snoke? I almost don't even blame Rian Johnson for killing him so pointlessly, but the way it was done is just so drawn out, with Snoke slowly narrating his own death in a twist you can see coming from a mile away. tl;dr nothing character. Original ANH Jabba Scene Completely ruins all of the mystique of Jabba. Building Jabba up as a space gangster Han is scared of is way better than Han meeting him and him turning out to just be a fat guy. Han Solo Walking On Jabba's Tail Likewise, the idea that Han would disrespect Jabba like this is dumb. I realize it was done because of the way the scene was shot rather than because Lucas wanted it, but dude, just cut the scene. David Prowse's Vader Voice Hilarity incarnate. The idea of the big bad Imperial enforcer and Dark Jedi sounding like just some random guy is amazing. It's not hard to see why it was changed. Jedi Council Honestly? I don't completely hate the Jedi Council. If you have to have a Jedi ruling body, which you do, I think Lucas did it about as well as it could have been done: a bunch of hippies sitting on pillows in a circle. Too bad that they're all portrayed as idiots, though. Darth Vader Making Puns If, before RO came out, you asked me which Star Wars character would have the least tolerance for bad puns, I would have said Darth Vader. I can imagine Han making a bad pun, even Palpatine, but not Vader. It's so, so bad. Poe Dameron AKA the most nothing of nothing characters. I love how Disney tries to pretend that Poe is a main character, like they planned for him to be one of the core three. He's clearly just a character they invented in TFA to have someone we recognize fighting Starkiller Base or whatever it's called. Now, in complete fairness, Poe does get more to do in the later movies. Too bad that he's involved in the worst plotline in TLJ (the Admiral Holdo one), where he proves he's the biggest idiot ever. Also, he opens the movie with a literal yo momma joke, which is another point against him. Like, honestly, what do you want me to say about Poe? I think Disney wanted him to be the face of the Resistance, but he's a complete nothing character. Racist Alien Caricatures I don't believe Lucas is racist, but man, he really needed someone to go over his work before submitting it. If it was just one thing, we could all look past it, but you have Watto, the Trade Federation guys, and Jar-Jar all in one movie. I can accept that it's just a horrible coincidence and that Lucas wasn't thinking about anything, but really, maybe he needs to think a little more. Prince Xizor So he's a cunning gangster who lies and scrapes at the Emperor's feet, but is actually in charge of the most powerful criminal gang ever, to the point where he's almost at the same level of power? ... I can imagine this guy being really good in a storytelling context, like in individual stories, but I'm not crazy about the idea of any criminal organization being that powerful. Although I accept that Wookieepedia may have built him up too much. Jedi Mind Trick It's strange how ANH introduces all of these Jedi things that don't really get used. Lightsabers never even show up after the Obi-Wan/Vader duel! Same with the Jedi Mind Trick, it's used twice in the OT, once in ANH and once in RotJ. For such a powerful ability, it plays almost no role in the series. Even in the PT, it's used like once per movie, never in an important context. I think the most important Jedi Mind Trick usage is Rey getting herself released in TFA? Conceptually, it's a great idea. "The Force can have a powerful influence on the weak-minded." It makes total sense, too. Great use of a psychic power. --- Not changing this sig until I decide to change this sig. Started: July 6, 2005</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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