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Topic	Trump 'doesn't know about QAnon': is he a liar, or just woefully uninformed?
BlackJackCat 10/17/20 10:43:38 PM #29:	OhhhJa posted... Sure I can agree to all of this but why is biden not challenged ever on the useful idiots that are absolutely voting for him? Why does he never have to address any of the anarchists terrorizing cities right now? It's a double standard. Because being an anarchist is more of a grey area. Especially when The anarchists are in theory anti-fascist (let's not get into a debate about if they actually are or are not, the point is fundamentally they are against something generally most people disagree with on paper, or should disagree with) Whether they are right or wrong to use violence to push their ends, at least they are usually grounded in reality. You might not like the thing they are pushing for, but at least it's not something pulled right out of their ass to demonize the fuck out of the other side. I suppose you could argue that calling everything racist and fascist is the same thing, but lets not pretend pedophilia isn't a whole level of damaging unto its own. Antifa, regardless of your thoughts on them, are not delusional. Antifa, by large also do not "support" Biden. In fact there is no clear consensus what they support. Some have suggested the whole establishment step down, others accept Biden as the only realistic alternative in a two party system. Saying they "support" Biden is tenuous because they're not an organization that is cohesive from individual to individual, never mind from city to city or other comparative groups. As I said, you could argue Antifa's conception of what is racism and fascism is flawed, but that's potentially an argument you would have to have a thousand different times with a thousand different minutia because the organizational structure of Antifa is broad. To flip this around, would you call a group of people who are trying to run a known sex offender out of a neighborhood an organization? It could possibly be, or, maybe, a dozen angry neighbors show up on the same day with the same thing in mind, because largely it's accepted that being a sex offender is not okay. The people could come with different intentions in mind, but still be grouped by one common thread, but have no prior conspiracy to do anything in a concerted effort. --- This issues still comes to mind now and then Cake was baking in the oven and mother was making tea for us <cite>BlackJackCat posted [p:945981260] in Trump 'doe... [t:79046423]...</cite> <quote>OhhhJa posted... </cite> <quote>Sure I can agree to all of this but why is biden not challenged ever on the useful idiots that are absolutely voting for him? Why does he never have to address any of the anarchists terrorizing cities right now? It's a double standard.</quote> Because being an anarchist is more of a grey area. Especially when The anarchists are in theory anti-fascist (let's not get into a debate about if they actually are or are not, the point is fundamentally they are against something generally most people disagree with on paper, or should disagree with)Whether they are right or wrong to use violence to push their ends, at least they are usually grounded in reality. You might not like the thing they are pushing for, but at least it's not something pulled right out of their ass to demonize the fuck out of the other side. I suppose you could argue that calling everything racist and fascist is the same thing, but lets not pretend pedophilia isn't a whole level of damaging unto its own.Antifa, regardless of your thoughts on them, are not delusional. Antifa, by large also do not "support" Biden. In fact there is no clear consensus what they support. Some have suggested the whole establishment step down, others accept Biden as the only realistic alternative in a two party system. Saying they "support" Biden is tenuous because they're not an organization that is cohesive from individual to individual, never mind from city to city or other comparative groups. As I said, you could argue Antifa's conception of what is racism and fascism is flawed, but that's potentially an argument you would have to have a thousand different times with a thousand different minutia because the organizational structure of Antifa is broad. To flip this around, would you call a group of people who are trying to run a known sex offender out of a neighborhood an organization? It could possibly be, or, maybe, a dozen angry neighbors show up on the same day with the same thing in mind, because largely it's accepted that being a sex offender is not okay. The people could come with different intentions in mind, but still be grouped by one common thread, but have no prior conspiracy to do anything in a concerted effort. --- This issues still comes to mind now and then Cake was baking in the oven and mother was making tea for us</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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