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streamofthesky posted...

You do know there was literally a time where someone stole GWB's debate prep book and tried to give it to Al Gore's team and instead of taking them up on the offer and using it, they reported it to the authorities.
Right?

Politics is a dirty business. But one side has been dealing in it much dirtier than the other.

I don't doubt it, but the cynic in me also recognizes that Gore probably had more public opinion to gain by publicly returning it than by using it against Bush, especially if there was a significant risk of getting caught. Maybe that's unwarranted, but I'm inclined to just assume that every politician is stabbing every other politician in the back at all times and not try to make any party-scale generalizations.

OhhhJa posted...

I wear my mask whenever I go out but I'm still gonna call out what I think is a law that quite clearly crosses a line.

Why? It's a measure that has been exhaustively demonstrated to benefit public safety, the cost to follow it is minimal (speaking as somebody who has put on a mask during an asthma attack, the people who think they can't because they have respiratory issues need to chill out and get over themselves), and not following it puts others at risk. What line is it crossing that isn't also crossed by every other public safety law (including pretty much every traffic regulation)?

OhhhJa posted...

I don't think we should be having cops go out and arrest people for not putting a piece of cloth on their face

Again, if they're breaking the law, they should be arrested appropriately. That's exactly how laws work. If you think the law's unreasonable, argue that, not some alarmist, deliberately vague "they're arresting people for not having cloth on their face!" that tries to paint the situation as being too absurd to be worth arguing properly against. That's just a cheap, pathos-ridden cop-out to get the pearl clutchers on your side.

OhhhJa posted...

arresting people for facebook posts.

If I post on Facebook "Tomorrow at 11:30 AM, I'm going to set off a bomb at the corner of Main and York," should I not be arrested?

"People shouldn't be arrested for facebook posts" is a stupid thing to say. It's a vague blanket statement that deliberately misrepresents the situation to - again - alarm pearl clutchers into agreeing with you, while ignoring the very obvious reality that there are many Facebook posts that absolutely should result in arrests. Nobody is being arrested merely for making a post on Facebook. People are being arrested for announcing their plans to break the law, which is completely fair. Again, if you want to argue against the law, do that. Stop trying to convince us that people are being arrested merely for making facebook posts, because you're not fooling anyone and are just making yourself look ridiculous.

Nestama posted...

A protest would have only made lockdowns last longer.

This is something people don't seem to get: Anti-lockdown protests aren't going to change anyone's mind. Lockdowns are based on the best available medical advice, and medicine doesn't care how many witty slogans you can come up with. Everyone already knows you're unhappy with the situation, because everyone else is also unhappy with the situation because it's a goddamn pandemic. Protesting lockdowns accomplishes absolutely nothing while also worsening the situation for everyone else, which is why the protests are met with such vitriol from the people who are also sick of being locked down but have the maturity to ride it out instead of throwing an impotent temper tantrum.

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