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Zeus
09/17/20 3:23:40 AM
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Entity13 posted...
Any opinion that outright avoids the facts like Hillary avoided the middle states is malformed and subject to such scrutiny,

You mean things that the left itself claimed and media actively reported on? If NPR is slamming a leftist candidate with that claim, there's usually something to it. But feel free to explain your reasoning for feeling why that isn't the case.

Entity13 posted...
One worth discarding outright, like a flaming turd bag that had been left on the porch, is the idea of racism being OK, of rich people getting richer while everyone else is literally risking losing their homes during a pandemic is a good move for the country, that children should be separated from their families while women are forced to have hysterectomies without any semblance of consent (regardless of who started the general detainment program), that the post office should be shut down or mail-in ballots halted (especially during election year) when it's the number one method of voting for soldiers overseas, or attacks on veterans should be the norm.

Whole lot of BS right there.

Item 1 ("Racism being okay") is a mix of a vague strawman and a good ol' ad hominem. For somebody complaining about baseless opinions, it's funny that you'd immediately jump to nonsense like that. Specific complaints are worth mentioning, but generally these are arguments you fall back on when you don't have facts on your side.

Item 2 ("of rich people getting richer while everyone else is literally risking losing their homes during a pandemic is a good move for the country") is a silly strawman as well. I'm not sure who exactly is getting richer right now anyway, unless you're talking about the value of stock increasing which isn't so much "getting richer" anyway although people like to frame that claim as such. Nor does one thing have any connection to the other. It's a traditional bad faith argument.

Family separations is an intellectually deceitful claim, considering that people involved in other lawbreaking are also separated from their kids.... and you can be separated from your kids even without breaking the law (and I should mention that CPS disproportionately impacts minority families)

Then the "that the post office should be shut down" is a really shitty strawman. The talk about mail-in voter fraud *is* a legitimate concern, and one that Democrats had long pushed as a concern... until Republicans started talking about it. It's funny watching people get whiplash as they go from intensely criticizing the potential for mail-in fraud to ardently defending it.

And the idea that criticizing veterans shouldn't be condoned simply because they're veterans is a fucking stupid, indefensible opinion and the kind of flaming turd you should be attacking instead of defending. There are certainly some things are in poor taste, but NOTHING should give people a blank check.

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