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Topic	We should see COVID deaths rise quickly soon, right?
adjl 07/08/20 5:28:43 PM #22:	Veedrock- posted... If we don't know, why is it being sold as fact and sure occurrence? Because doctors are seeing persistent tissue damage in recovered cases that doesn't seem to be healing. The long-term implications of that damage remain uncertain, but it is fact that such damage is happening. Veedrock- posted... I'm not a tinfoil hat person, I'm a "quit your bulls*" person. Jumping to the assumption that leaving out concrete numbers is a deliberate omission for the sake of instilling fear is pretty conspiratorial. Especially when there's such a simple explanation as "the long-term effects aren't known for certain because the disease is 8 months old" exists that doesn't rely on any grand conspiracy to control the world through a narrative of fear. Veedrock- posted... By your logic I assume you'll campaign against a covid vaccine too? We don't know what effects a covid vaccine will have in 10 years, so you should fear the absolute worst and assume death or handicap. That's what clinical trials are for. You can't completely rule out the possibility that a vaccine will have some sort of long-term side effect that won't show up during the trial period, but you can make reasonable inferences about whether or not the components of the vaccine will have such effects and observe the health of trial participants to identify issues that may worsen over time. It's very different to say "we don't know for certain that this thing won't kill us in a decade so we should presume that it does" than to say "we can observe damage caused by this thing that is likely to cause further problems later in life." Being concerned about future health complications in recovered Covid patients is not a matter of being paranoid and worrying about some secret hidden power it has to hurt people even once it's gone, it's a matter of seeing people that have had the virus eradicated from their systems yet still have health issues they didn't have before being infected. This is empirical reality, even if the detailed statistics and full implications aren't fully understood yet. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:941852404] in We should ... [t:78832505]...</cite> <quote>Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>If we don't know, why is it being sold as fact and sure occurrence?</quote> Because doctors are seeing persistent tissue damage in recovered cases that doesn't seem to be healing. The long-term implications of that damage remain uncertain, but it is fact that such damage is happening. Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>I'm not a tinfoil hat person, I'm a "quit your bulls*" person.</quote> Jumping to the assumption that leaving out concrete numbers is a deliberate omission for the sake of instilling fear is pretty conspiratorial. Especially when there's such a simple explanation as "the long-term effects aren't known for certain because the disease is 8 months old" exists that doesn't rely on any grand conspiracy to control the world through a narrative of fear. Veedrock- posted... </cite> <quote>By your logic I assume you'll campaign against a covid vaccine too? We don't know what effects a covid vaccine will have in 10 years, so you should fear the absolute worst and assume death or handicap.</quote> That's what clinical trials are for. You can't completely rule out the possibility that a vaccine will have some sort of long-term side effect that won't show up during the trial period, but you can make reasonable inferences about whether or not the components of the vaccine will have such effects and observe the health of trial participants to identify issues that may worsen over time. It's very different to say "we don't know for certain that this thing won't kill us in a decade so we should presume that it does" than to say "we can observe damage caused by this thing that is likely to cause further problems later in life." Being concerned about future health complications in recovered Covid patients is not a matter of being paranoid and worrying about some secret hidden power it has to hurt people even once it's gone, it's a matter of seeing people that have had the virus eradicated from their systems yet still have health issues they didn't have before being infected. This is empirical reality, even if the detailed statistics and full implications aren't fully understood yet. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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