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Topic~~ Ctes' Post-Contest Analysis (PCA) ~~
ctesjbuvf
05/29/20 9:57:46 AM
#209:


Round 2 Division 4 Day 20
Persona 4 Golden 50.83%
Read Dead Redemption 49.17%

Prediction Percentage 31.05%

Today would be the true test of how much strength Persona 4 Golden had compared to Persona 4. Back in 2015, Persona 4 and Red Dead Redemption looked to be very close, but Persona 4 a small step above. Based on that, Persona 4 Golden would need to basically be a Persona 4 proxy to reach that high, but it obviously doesnt only come down to this. Both games have also gotten critically acclaimed new games in their series since last time, which mightve boosted these two.

Persona 4 Golden was the favorite to win, though most people overestimated how easy it would be for it. Most of us probably thought it proved itself to be on Persona 4 levels in the first round, but its different to be against some fodder game than one of the big names of the decade. There also seems to be a group of people who will pick Persona if it just has the slightest chance of winning, so maybe that helped make it the bigger favorite.

Persona 4 won the board vote and that shouldnt really surprise anyone. Rockstar games have the worst board votes and Persona games have the best. Everyone seemed to think it was fine after behind ahead of the freeze, but I was skeptical. Persona 4 barely gained in the last minutes of the freeze and while it went up from there, it was pretty slow considering there was all the reason in the world to think this would be its best time in the match with great lengths. I posted this in the stats topic at the time, but everyone was saying it fine. This happened for a few updates, but then Read Dead Redemption cut at the hour mark and people finally expressed the worry they should. It was not a big cut, but a Rockstar game cut Board 8s beloved JRPG halfway through the power hour was a major warning sign.

Read Dead Redemption continued to make small cuts in Persona 4s best time of the match. Judging by the votals, theres a good chance there was a little bit of rally spillover from the Shovel Knight rally in the final hour of the previous matches. Nothing big, but it seemed to help Persona 4 a little. Another reason that it was in trouble. There was a real reason to think Red Dead Redemption would win at this point.

It never happened though. Red Dead Redemption made a lot of pushes, but it couldnt actually get to close. The main reason for this is probably the boards passion for Persona and the boards lack of passion for RDR. Throughout the day, a lot of small Persona rallies would come help it out whenever it got close. Usually it doesnt matter much what board 8 prefers in a match, but today it most likely did. We ended up having Persona 4 rallies here and there, and they worked a bit, because Persona is now big enough that there are places around the web where people care for it. Another important point is that no one tried to rally for Red Dead Redemption. People had it in their brackets, but no one seemed to care enough to counterrally. Or they just enjoyed seeing Persona get a victory. Its hard to tell how the match would have ended if some people supporters RDR to the same extent, we cant really know how well it would have worked.

I think Read Dead Redemption claims a narrow victory here without outside interference, but its not easy to determine just how much the rallies did. It wasnt spectacular, but that and a little bit of spillover might just have made the difference. There were definitely less complains about rallying as we usually see, probably because the result bothered nobody. I dont think its hypocritical not to complain, just to make that clear. It only is if you passionately dislike rallies and then rally yourself. Its only natural not be as annoyed when you hate the result. But it shows how much we like Persona 4.

I just think Red Dead Redemption deserves a little more respect that it got, because Persona 4 definitely needed help to get this victory and I think the board is a little too good at turning a blind eye to when Persona is in trouble. The early part of the match makes that clear to me. Perhaps its more than Persona 4 Golden deserves a little less respect cause even though RDR never got too close, the idea that Persona 4 is just stronger than RDR by a solid enough amount to win with relative ease is misleading.

Persona 4 had a very fascinating run that everyone should appreciate, but I still think its a shame we dont get to see what we would prefer in a Grand Theft Auto vs. Red Dead Redemption match, even if we got something better. Its just that its probably the best chance well ever get to see how that hierarchy works because they almost never get further than round 2. I personally think Persona 4 should be happy it could gain some momentum in this match to overcome GTAV as well. Im sure it wins that match without it. Considering the prediction percentage today and the ones in round 1, its pretty clear RDR was the sitewide favorite by a good amount.

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