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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 288: Ventilators! Mount Up
Corrik7
03/30/20 8:48:51 AM
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LordoftheMorons posted...
Unless we haven't gotten the outbreak under control, the vast majority of the death will be within a month of getting it under control. If we haven't gotten it under control by November, a lot more than 200k people are probably dying.

Do you really not think it's fair to assign Trump any blame to this? Do you disagree that the testing situation was a fucking fiasco? Do you think he's somehow not responsible for that?


Well, I think we have to assign blame multiple places while people are assigning it one place.

1. Stockpile was depleted after H1N1 and not replenished. This falls onto the Obama administration and partly onto Trump's.

2. Stockpile was never intended to be a solution to a pandemic but a stopgap. We have literal confirmation of that. So, that means the stockpile was shortsighted for every administration that existed.

3. Governor Cuomo deserves some criticism for saying a federal quarantine is a declaration of war on states.

4. Various governors/past governors deserve criticism for being woefully unprepared all together. Michigan is the easiest to pick out with having only 1,000 of the nation's 200,000 ventilators. That's pretty unprepared. But, that likely falls onto past governors and not the current one.

5. China. China is not giving the most accurate information out of their nation which could have helped the world.

6. The WHO. The WHO recommended against travel bans to China. If the world had all banned travel from China, this could have died in China. The WHO chose politics in that decision to not recommend travel bans due to Chinese influence of the WHO or outright poor decision making.

7. Trump. Trump has the right idea of trying to give Americans something to look forward to. A goal. Even if it is a shifting goal. Hey! 2 weeks! We can do this! Then Hey! We already did 2 weeks! We can do it another 2! Etc. However, Trump as always is a poor communicator and sometimes has let mixed messaging seep into the public. This failure to control leaks is his administration's fault. Every president is going to spitball different ideas and behind closed doors ideas the public don't like will be spitballed. However, keeping it from the public let's the administration not get mired in that controversy.

8. Trump and Democrats. They are still playing politics. The Michigan governor is very guilty of accusing the President of purposely not sending her supplies, while the New York governor is purposely attacking him for not sending him supplies and for not doing much. Not everyone can get supplies from a stockpile that is documented as being depleted. You do nothing to calm your constituents by accusing the President of trying to kill them basically. In Michigan, it is cover for a woefully unprepared state in ventilators and attack on a President in a battleground state.

To this point, we have less than 2,500 people in ICU across America. I think it is safe to say we shouldn't be at breaking limits yet anywhere, though it is likely coming at some point.

Democrat doctors are also a worrisome thing. They are creating panic over their Twitter and Facebook videos they are releasing. We have a video of a doctor saying we aren't supposed to be a 3rd world country and what not. Well, every country in the world is going through this or will be. Not being able to magically cure a pandemic is not something that makes someone first world or third world. These videos create panic.

Trump and Democrats in general need to create solidarity. Yes, I know, it is an election year and solidarity means a Trump re-election, but at what point is the American population worth more than an election. To both Trump and Democrats in general.

We have heard hampering over and over that not voting so and so is "blood in the streets" and costing lives. The lives are literally right here and now. When will the partisan politics end?

9. CDC. Yes, their tests were faulty. They dumped them and started anew. However, we are now hearing the Chinese tests are faulty as well with 30-50% reliability and Western nations are recalling these tests over and over. I do not think Trump though had absolutely anything to do with the developing of tests nor do I think anyone had a relatively accurate test. We dumped our tests because we have standards. The Chinese just used them regardless.

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