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TopicIn-Depth Contest Analysis (2020 Version)
LeonhartFour
03/12/20 1:11:27 AM
#248:


Well, I'm saying Melee probably wouldn't be difficult to find a reasonable range for because you'd have to believe KH2 beats FFX to put it any higher than it is.

Mario 64 is really difficult to peg, but I also don't think it means anything for Odyssey or its chances to beat Ultimate. I think it's much more likely that Ultimate beats Odyssey easily than the other way around. If Odyssey wins, it's probably by the skin of its teeth.

KamikazePotato posted...
I would take Melee to be stronger, and I would be comfortable with that. Brawl was about equal to Melee and it was the most hyped game this site has ever had and had a much higher playrate.

Yeah, but Brawl had a significant portion of the fanbase that was actively anti-voting it, and it was still stronger than Melee. Ultimate doesn't have that problem. And I don't know that I'd say it has a much higher playrate when Ultimate is the best-selling Smash game and the Switch is at its peak, while the Wii was already starting to fall off by the time GOTD1 hit.

KamikazePotato posted...
I keep going back to Ultimate's GotY poll and can't help but think that Odyssey would have done better there.

but this is the thing

this is what everyone thinks with modern Mario games

we all think they should be a lot more popular than they are

just about every Mario game was a massive favorite in round 1 in GOTD1 because it's freakin' Mario and Sunshine lost to Halo 3 and NSMBWii lost to MvC2. MKWii almost lost to Phoenix Wright. Galaxy was unimpressive against a Gen 3 Pokemon game and lost easily to Twilight Princess. Ultimate probably won't blow it out, but its ceiling is higher than Odyssey's, which I don't think will reach elite tier strength, just like Galaxy never did. You can argue Galaxy is stronger than we think, and it might be, but it still lost handily to two elite tier Nintendo games.

(also I think Smash 4 is probably a good deal overrated in the 2015 stats due to facing FFVII, which is a prime opponent for it to overperform against, which would also explain stuff like how ME1 placed higher than ME2 in the X-Stats, but it was also a Wii U game on a site that never embraced the Wii U; a mainline Smash that isn't the original is only going to be so weak, and it has a very high floor)

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