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Topic	Washington is forcing you to declare as rep or dem in order to vote
Zeus 02/21/20 1:08:23 PM #19:	wolfy42 posted... WA state is forcing residents to declare on their voting ballets as either republican or democrat in order to vote for the primaries. Your declaration has to align with the vote inside as well. This has never been a requirement in the past (anywhere that I know of), and I think it's unconstitutional. You should not have to be a republican or a democrat (or declare as one) in order to vote. How are they even getting away with this? It's common sense to only allow members of a party to vote in that respective party's primary and, quite frankly, that system doesn't go far enough. Many -- if not most -- states require you to register as a member of a party to vote in that party's primaries. wolfy42 posted... More than that, if you don't vote right (if you vote for more then one person even another democrat) or follow the exact rules, your vote doesn't count. Pretty sure that's how the system works in most states. If you cast an ineligible vote, that vote doesn't count. wolfy42 posted... In addition, Trump is the only republican candidate, so he automatiially gets all the delegates. The democrats have to get 15% or more of a district to get them, and they can be split up. If contested then the delegates can vote for whoever they want. Literally how that's always worked. wolfy42 posted... Finally, horribly, your choice (Dem or Rep) is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that anyone can look up for 60 days after the election. So not only are you forced to choose a side (Even if your a moderate and don't consider yourself a dem or rep) but now everyone is going to know what side you chose as well. Why would that be horrible? It's your party affiliation. Many states keep a record of that for much longer. CT, for instance, has public records hosted on the internet showing which party you're registered for and iirc when you registered/switched parties. Actually, it's a bit more intrusive because it combines other pieces of information and -- although public information as well -- makes them easier to find. wolfy42 posted... At least in CA and WA you could vote without declaring throughout my whole life (but havn't been in CA for awhile). There should be a third option and I certainly don't feel like it should be public knowledge on top of removing the third option. Your basically forcing people to choose a side. And if you're voting in one SIDE'S primaries, you should pick a SIDE wolfy42 posted... In some ways, this could actually harm peoples careers as well, as republican owners of buisinesses etc, could now see which employees are democrats and fire them eventually (obviously for other reasons, but if you look for one, you can probably find it). I heard this was done in places like N Carolina etc, but it could easily start happening in Washington now as well. Most of the people who might get fired over their politics don't need to be identified by a website, they're vocal enough on their own and by their actions potentially impact their companies. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:934688952] in Washington... [t:78422322]...</cite> <quote>wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>WA state is forcing residents to declare on their voting ballets as either republican or democrat in order to vote for the primaries. Your declaration has to align with the vote inside as well. This has never been a requirement in the past (anywhere that I know of), and I think it's unconstitutional. You should not have to be a republican or a democrat (or declare as one) in order to vote. How are they even getting away with this?</quote> It's common sense to only allow members of a party to vote in that respective party's primary and, quite frankly, that system doesn't go far enough. Many -- if not most -- states require you to register as a member of a party to vote in that party's primaries. wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>More than that, if you don't vote right (if you vote for more then one person even another democrat) or follow the exact rules, your vote doesn't count.</quote> Pretty sure that's how the system works in most states. If you cast an ineligible vote, that vote doesn't count. wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>In addition, Trump is the only republican candidate, so he automatiially gets all the delegates. The democrats have to get 15% or more of a district to get them, and they can be split up. If contested then the delegates can vote for whoever they want.</quote> Literally how that's always worked. wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>Finally, horribly, your choice (Dem or Rep) is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that anyone can look up for 60 days after the election. So not only are you forced to choose a side (Even if your a moderate and don't consider yourself a dem or rep) but now everyone is going to know what side you chose as well.</quote> Why would that be horrible? It's your party affiliation. Many states keep a record of that for much longer. CT, for instance, has public records hosted on the internet showing which party you're registered for and iirc when you registered/switched parties. Actually, it's a bit more intrusive because it combines other pieces of information and -- although public information as well -- makes them easier to find. wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>At least in CA and WA you could vote without declaring throughout my whole life (but havn't been in CA for awhile). There should be a third option and I certainly don't feel like it should be public knowledge on top of removing the third option. Your basically forcing people to choose a side.</quote> And if you're voting in one SIDE'S primaries, you should pick a SIDE wolfy42 posted... </cite> <quote>In some ways, this could actually harm peoples careers as well, as republican owners of buisinesses etc, could now see which employees are democrats and fire them eventually (obviously for other reasons, but if you look for one, you can probably find it). I heard this was done in places like N Carolina etc, but it could easily start happening in Washington now as well.</quote> Most of the people who might get fired over their politics don't need to be identified by a website, they're vocal enough on their own and by their actions potentially impact their companies. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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