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ParanoidObsessive 02/19/20 2:21:50 AM #377:	Zeus posted... Do you hate fun? Yes. Zeus posted... The vampire would likely just get really sick. In Being Human, werewolf blood made vampires violently ill CyborgSage00x0 posted... Aka, in some lores/mythos, vampires are basically immune to diseases, especially blood ones. This is the real problem with that discussion. Because we're talking about fictional concepts that are basically public domain, there's no single vision or objectively correct interpretation of how they work. So it's hard to say how multiple quantumly uncertain mechanics would interact. Is zombieism a virus? A curse? The result of black magic? Voodoo drugs? The fact that there's no more room in hell, forcing souls back into their bodies? The beginning of the Day of Judgement? Something else? Is vampirism a virus? A curse? Black magic? Something that makes you glitter in the sunlight? The next stage of human evolution? A literal punishment by God? A form of demonic possession? Is lycanthropy a virus? A curse? Black magic? A deal witches make with Satan to change? A distinct race of their own? The chosen champions of a literal world-spirit? The result of ancient furries fucking their way across the world? The descendants of trickster gods? The different variations all have their own complications as well. Do zombies lack any form of healing (settings where they rot), or are they actually more regenerative than humans (Resident Evil)? Do vampires pass on vampirism to literally everyone they bite, or does it require three bites? Or actively having to share their blood with the victim? Can a vampire feed without killing, or do they have to kill every meal? Can werewolves pass on their curse at all, or is it an innate part of their nature they can only pass on to their children (or not at all)? Are vampires immune to all disease (explaining why they're not walking sacks of blood-transmitted STD), or are they more vulnerable because of the fluid transfer? Does zombie infection require a blatant bite, any degree of fluid transfer (meaning even getting zombie blood in your eye dooms you), or is it a virus that infects everyone, but only manifests when you "die" (like Walking Dead)? If you become a vampire, does supernatural evil warp every aspect of your personality and turn you into a monster no matter who you were before, or are you still basically the same person, only now you have to drink blood to survive? Does mixing vampire and werewolf blood result in a weird super-power hybrid like in Underworld or White Wolf, or does it just kill one or both of the two? If you're something already magical (like a witch, or a magic-powered werewolf), does being turned into a vampire make you a magical vampire, or does it destroy the spark of magic in you and just leave you a normal vampire (or just kills you entirely)? Unless we break things down into very specific examples (like, say, an RE zombie and a Buffy/Angel vampire biting each other), it kind of becomes impossible to even theorycraft out what might happen. But I've always kind of been a fan of weird hybrids, so I'll usually err on the side that the two both sort of become something new. Which might be why I liked the ninja pirate zombie robot in Kingdom of Loathing. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:934580661] in Geek+: Str... [t:78164686]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Do you hate fun?</quote> Yes. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>The vampire would likely just get really sick. In Being Human, werewolf blood made vampires violently ill </quote> <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>Aka, in some lores/mythos, vampires are basically immune to diseases, especially blood ones.</quote> This is the real problem with that discussion. Because we're talking about fictional concepts that are basically public domain, there's no single vision or objectively correct interpretation of how they work. So it's hard to say how multiple quantumly uncertain mechanics would interact. Is zombieism a virus? A curse? The result of black magic? Voodoo drugs? The fact that there's no more room in hell, forcing souls back into their bodies? The beginning of the Day of Judgement? Something else? Is vampirism a virus? A curse? Black magic? Something that makes you glitter in the sunlight? The next stage of human evolution? A literal punishment by God? A form of demonic possession? Is lycanthropy a virus? A curse? Black magic? A deal witches make with Satan to change? A distinct race of their own? The chosen champions of a literal world-spirit? The result of ancient furries fucking their way across the world? The descendants of trickster gods? The different variations all have their own complications as well. Do zombies lack any form of healing (settings where they rot), or are they actually more regenerative than humans (Resident Evil)? Do vampires pass on vampirism to literally everyone they bite, or does it require three bites? Or actively having to share their blood with the victim? Can a vampire feed without killing, or do they have to kill every meal? Can werewolves pass on their curse at all, or is it an innate part of their nature they can only pass on to their children (or not at all)? Are vampires immune to all disease (explaining why they're not walking sacks of blood-transmitted STD), or are they more vulnerable because of the fluid transfer? Does zombie infection require a blatant bite, any degree of fluid transfer (meaning even getting zombie blood in your eye dooms you), or is it a virus that infects everyone, but only manifests when you "die" (like Walking Dead)? If you become a vampire, does supernatural evil warp every aspect of your personality and turn you into a monster no matter who you were before, or are you still basically the same person, only now you have to drink blood to survive? Does mixing vampire and werewolf blood result in a weird super-power hybrid like in Underworld or White Wolf, or does it just kill one or both of the two? If you're something already magical (like a witch, or a magic-powered werewolf), does being turned into a vampire make you a magical vampire, or does it destroy the spark of magic in you and just leave you a normal vampire (or just kills you entirely)? Unless we break things down into very specific examples (like, say, an RE zombie and a Buffy/Angel vampire biting each other), it kind of becomes impossible to even theorycraft out what might happen. But I've always kind of been a fan of weird hybrids, so I'll usually err on the side that the two both sort of become something new. Which might be why I liked the ninja pirate zombie robot in Kingdom of Loathing. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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