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Topic	Does Bernie Sanders have too many fringe opinions to actually win the election?
shipwreckers 02/13/20 3:34:51 AM #53:	Mead posted... yep Obama actually tried to meet conservatives halfway time and time again, and every time they just took advantage of that to get what they wanted They do not represent the majority of Americans and we are not going to bend over backwards to appease them because everything they do is in bad faith Well, in defense of both sides, many promises were made under the ACA that were not realistic at all (e.g. "If you like your current health care, you can keep it" / etc.). The insurance companies were forced to compensate for new mandatory coverage, like pre-existing conditions (so premiums almost universally increased). Meanwhile, more newly-covered people than ever were lining up for actual healthcare (so actual hospital bills almost universally increased). Both of these factors in tandem REDUCED the speed and quality of obtainable coverage almost across-the-board, since the healthcare labor force was already stretched BEFORE the policy changed. In other words, there isn't really anything "AFFORDABLE" about the Affordable Care Act. The money had to be pulled out of the asses of working-class taxpayers. Therefore, it's understandable how there was some resistance (regardless of who originally thought it up.) --- Money is overrated... <cite>shipwreckers posted [p:934311214] in Does Berni... [t:78396737]...</cite> <quote>Mead posted... </cite> <quote>yep Obama actually tried to meet conservatives halfway time and time again, and every time they just took advantage of that to get what they wanted They do not represent the majority of Americans and we are not going to bend over backwards to appease them because everything they do is in bad faith</quote> Well, in defense of both sides, many promises were made under the ACA that were not realistic at all (e.g. "If you like your current health care, you can keep it" / etc.). The insurance companies were forced to compensate for new mandatory coverage, like pre-existing conditions (so premiums almost universally increased). Meanwhile, more newly-covered people than ever were lining up for actual healthcare (so actual hospital bills almost universally increased). Both of these factors in tandem REDUCED the speed and quality of obtainable coverage almost across-the-board, since the healthcare labor force was already stretched BEFORE the policy changed. In other words, there isn't really anything "AFFORDABLE" about the Affordable Care Act. The money had to be pulled out of the asses of working-class taxpayers. Therefore, it's understandable how there was some resistance (regardless of who originally thought it up.) --- Money is overrated...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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