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TopicPolitics Containment Topic 258: Imminent Song
xp1337
01/11/20 5:40:55 PM
#72:


538 tracks both impeachment and removal, and on impeachment specificially it has a few different models.

Its model that tracks only polling of just removal has 47.1% support among all respondants and 41% among self-identified Independents. It also does not have a number for opposing removal (or no opinion) it only tracks the number for those who express support.

Its impeachment model has a few different forms since it had been running longer and covered a wider range of questions as the situation developed. That model stretches back to before the Mueller Report being released, after all. It gives you options to adjust the model to only count polls asking if the House should begin the impeachment process or to only include polls specifically asking about impeachment directly. Its default mode includes all those polls together and currently sits at the 50.2% support / 46.2% oppose, the support number today of 50.2% actually isn't the all-time high, it was at 50.3% on October 14th (in terms of real world events this was early in the inquiry process, about when depositions began.) Though obviously today's number would be the second highest it has been.

Interestingly(?) if you filter the model to only include polls that directly ask for support of impeachment and/or impeachment+remove and filter out the process polls, the support level for impeachment sits at 50.3% today and in fact the past few days represent the highest it has ever been, crossing to above 50% for the first time on January 5th at 50.5% which is that model's all-time high. Today's number is again the model's second highest support number.

While impeachment has happened, polling outfits are still asking impeach questions, only now they take the obvious past tense form of "Do you approve or disapprove of the House impeaching Trump?" Many outfits ask both approve/disapprove impeachment and approve/disapprove removal as separate questions to this day hence the slightly different models.

Verdict: TheRock specifically was talking about support for impeachment and while he was incorrect about it being an all-time high for the model (understandable if mobile since apparently you can't do the handy "move the mouse around to see the numbers for every individual day" thing to verify that actually there was a single day a few months ago where the model went 0.1% higher) is therefore right in spirit. Corrik bringing up the removal numbers is... not what TheRock was talking about, that's a different model. Those are two different questions with different models. The numbers shown on the remove model are stated correctly it's just... not what Rock was speaking about. Impeachment polls are still being asked, conducted, and included in the model even though impeachment has happened and it is true the model shows that public support for impeachment has increased after it formally happened when the public was asked about it.

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