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IloveJesus posted...

In fairness, a big part of the problem is that a number of labour mps aren't even remotely left wing.

Obviously, if you're a centrist, you aren't going to like that Corbyn was left wing. But then, if the party members have voted for him knowing full well that that's what he is, if you're an mp in that party and disagree with the direction set out by the members, the issue isn't the leader so much as you're in the wrong party. This did lead to an identity crisis in the party, but I feel like given the level of support Corbyn got from party members, the fault really lies with other mps trying to derail him rather than him.

I mean, what you're describing is the split between the blairites and corbynites that has nothing to do with disinformation and everything to do with corbyn and new members trying to pull the party further left and it has been in a long time. That sort of cultural shift is naturally going to result in a lot of unhappy members, and I think the votes played that out. What you're suggesting though, that the old members are in the "wrong party", implies that the direction corbyn was going in was the right one for the party, and four straight losses putting them in the worst position they've been in since the 1930s says otherwise.

But that's fine. It's perfectly reasonable to debate the direction the party should go in based on shifting ideals due to demographics differences between old and new members. That's completely different than claiming that some sort of coordinated disinformation campaign was specifically targeted against labor. The former is natural given the age of the party, the latter is pure conspiracy.

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