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Kyuubi4269 posted...

I would expect basically anybody post 1960 to have no reason to mindlessly exclude girls from chess.

There was no reason pre-1960 either. There doesn't need to be a reason for something to be a social norm. Note also that we're not necessarily talking about exclusion so much as the absence of inclusive encouragement. There's virtually no culture of encouraging girls to play chess, contrary to what exists for boys. This isn't a conscious effort to leave them out, it's just an implicit bias that pervades most of society.

Quite simply, if I asked you to imagine a chess player (outside of the biasing context that is this topic), odds are you'd picture a dude. That's pretty normal, and that's the implicit bias we're talking about here. The notion of an avid girl chess player is just odd, and that attitude becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy, especially when people like you point at the existing gender divide and declare that that is conclusive proof that girls just suck at chess and always will.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

There's selective pressure to not be a sexist turd.

Again, this isn't an overt thing. It's not even deliberate, a lot of the time. You don't get people pressuring people to not be sexist if they don't even notice it's happening.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

With kids with no prospects, yes. Notice how football players in the UK are almost exclusively mentally handicapped and can't string together a cohesive sentence in their native tongue.

So you accept that your initial premise (that is, "Nobody's encouraged to be a professional sportsman") is incorrect. Glad we're on the same page.

Side note: For somebody who constantly insists that your worth as a person is based entirely on how much money you make, you're being awfully condescending toward professionals who make more money in a year than you'll ever see. Just saiyan.

Kyuubi4269 posted...

No healthcare, unchecked mass slaughters, massive, public corruption, widespread moral decay. That's not first world.

More saliently, imagine reading "hockey parents" and thinking of the US first.

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