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ParanoidObsessive 11/20/19 1:12:06 AM #37:	Metalsonic66 posted... Never heard of it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqbuWpkoth0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_with_One_Red_Shoe The Wave Master posted... I don't mind the same sex agenda and liberal slants. Considering that I'm in an interacial marriage in the deep south, my in laws won't talk to me because ue I am black, and some of my closest friends are gay, it never bothers me that the story lines are so diversity. WhiskeyDisk posted... It's not the diversity that irks me, it's that it seems like a third of every episode has to grind to a halt to shoehorn it in. Sure there's a villain tearing up the city that we need to stop, but here is 10-15 minutes of mandatory lesbian relationship drama first. That's sort of my issue with it (and a large part of why I didn't watch Agent Carter). It's less that I have a problem with implications of diversity or the need to have strong female or ethnic protagonists, or even reminders that the past really wasn't a nice place to be for a lot of people who didn't look like me, but when it feels like the show is coming to a hard stop every 10 minutes or so to toss in an awkward hamfisted DO YOU GET IT? BIGOTRY AND PREJUDICE ARE THINGS THAT EXIST!, it starts to get annoying after the dozenth time someone has come out with an eye-rollingly stupid statement or moment solely to make the point they've already repeatedly made. Yes, I get it, men were really sexist in the 40s, hooray for feminism. Yes, okay, still get it. Life was totally hard on those 1940s women living in a society that dismissed their accomplishments and demeaned them as second-class citizens. No, this is not a thing I've stopped being aware of at any point, and I ever get the unsubtle barely-subtext you're trying to establish comparing it to how things are now, and how women are still discriminated against. Good job on the social commentary, now can we get back to the comic book action show? Oh, for God's sake. ALL RIGHT, I GET IT. I'M AN EVIL WHITE MALE. GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF. To be fair, context is everything with this. I'm not going to get too over-excited about lesbian relationships if I'm watching The L Word, or if I'm watching War and Remembrance (wait, do you Millennials even know what that is?) I'm not going to complain about how they seem to keep demonizing Nazis and emphasizing the whole anti-semitism thing. But I'm also not going to comic book movies and TV show for cutting social commentary. It's also the difference why I can enjoy a well-written character like Kamala Khan (an ethnic female whose stories often explore the effect of being a devout Muslim girl in modern America), whereas I can still be annoyed by the majority of Young Avengers characters, who seem to exist solely to scream LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE WE ARE! DO YOU LOVE US NOW, INTERNET? WHY WON'T YOU BUY OUR COMICS?! Young Avengers basically just feels like Tumblr fucked a box of crayons. Mostly, what it really comes down to is whether or not your social subtext is well-written, and integrated well into a story that is also well-written. Hit those requirements and I rarely care what sort of social message you're selling. Get too stupidly preachy or ham-fisted about it, and I'll be annoyed even if you're preaching something I actually believe in. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:930406843] in Geek+: Str... [t:78164686]...</cite> <quote>Metalsonic66 posted...</cite> <quote>Never heard of it</quote> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqbuWpkoth0 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Man_with_One_Red_Shoe <cite>The Wave Master posted...</cite> <quote>I don't mind the same sex agenda and liberal slants. Considering that I'm in an interacial marriage in the deep south, my in laws won't talk to me because ue I am black, and some of my closest friends are gay, it never bothers me that the story lines are so diversity.</quote> <cite>WhiskeyDisk posted...</cite> <quote>It's not the diversity that irks me, it's that it seems like a third of every episode has to grind to a halt to shoehorn it in. Sure there's a villain tearing up the city that we need to stop, but here is 10-15 minutes of mandatory lesbian relationship drama first.</quote> That's sort of my issue with it (and a large part of why I didn't watch Agent Carter). It's less that I have a problem with implications of diversity or the need to have strong female or ethnic protagonists, or even reminders that the past really wasn't a nice place to be for a lot of people who didn't look like me, but when it feels like the show is coming to a hard stop every 10 minutes or so to toss in an awkward hamfisted DO YOU GET IT? BIGOTRY AND PREJUDICE ARE THINGS THAT EXIST!, it starts to get annoying after the dozenth time someone has come out with an eye-rollingly stupid statement or moment solely to make the point they've already repeatedly made. Yes, I get it, men were really sexist in the 40s, hooray for feminism. Yes, okay, still get it. Life was totally hard on those 1940s women living in a society that dismissed their accomplishments and demeaned them as second-class citizens. No, this is not a thing I've stopped being aware of at any point, and I ever get the unsubtle barely-subtext you're trying to establish comparing it to how things are now, and how women are still discriminated against. Good job on the social commentary, now can we get back to the comic book action show? Oh, for God's sake. ALL RIGHT, I GET IT. I'M AN EVIL WHITE MALE. GET THE FUCK OVER YOURSELF. To be fair, context is everything with this. I'm not going to get too over-excited about lesbian relationships if I'm watching The L Word, or if I'm watching War and Remembrance (wait, do you Millennials even know what that is?) I'm not going to complain about how they seem to keep demonizing Nazis and emphasizing the whole anti-semitism thing. But I'm also not going to comic book movies and TV show for cutting social commentary. It's also the difference why I can enjoy a well-written character like Kamala Khan (an ethnic female whose stories often explore the effect of being a devout Muslim girl in modern America), whereas I can still be annoyed by the majority of Young Avengers characters, who seem to exist solely to scream LOOK HOW PROGRESSIVE WE ARE! DO YOU LOVE US NOW, INTERNET? WHY WON'T YOU BUY OUR COMICS?! Young Avengers basically just feels like Tumblr fucked a box of crayons. Mostly, what it really comes down to is whether or not your social subtext is well-written, and integrated well into a story that is also well-written. Hit those requirements and I rarely care what sort of social message you're selling. Get too stupidly preachy or ham-fisted about it, and I'll be annoyed even if you're preaching something I actually believe in. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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