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TopicHave you read the bible?
Unbridled9
11/09/19 2:52:14 AM
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People claimed the Greek gods lived on Mount Olympus and had a huge table there where they ate ambrosia. Funny enough, nobody thought to just run up there and check for themselves. If they had, they'd see that there's NOTHING ON MOUNT OLYMPUS that proves the existence of any gods. Same with the Roman gods. A lot of stories, but zero physical or scientific evidence to back up the claims.
Same with the god of the bible. A lot of stories and a lot of claims, but zero evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the god exists.
It is amusing how people of a particular faith will always handwave away any discussion or logical reasoning against the existence of their chosen deity.


That applies to science too. What? You didn't think people being illogical happened because of RELIGION did you? I mean, how many times have you seen someone either accept or reject something simply because it agreed/disagreed with their viewpoints? Like, you trust astronomers when they talk about exoplanets but you personally likely have no way to prove that they exist. You choose to believe it because it aligns with your beliefs and ideals. For all you know those scientists could be blowing the cash on hookers and drugs and seeing how long they can string along people with the exoplanet theory. Now, I'm not saying exoplanets don't exist. What I am saying is that claiming that following a faith blindly is illogical when, at the same time, you have no choice but to put blind faith in science (unless you are an actual expert in that one field) is just as illogical and the illogical aspect comes not from religion or science but a failure of the human nature.

After all, for a long time a lot of things were considered 'scientific' that have long-since been disproven (just look at mental health wards and medicines) and it's not like these were wild fringe beliefs at the time.

Also, your counter didn't actually deal with the point I made. Namely that the thing that did in the greek/roman gods was not science or them being 'disproven' but, rather, Christianity displacing the Greco-roman beliefs. As to what they believed or claimed was happening when they climbed Mt. Olympus and found nothing there I have no clue. In an odd sort of way the Greco-Roman pantheon in still sort of at least acknowledged today as parts of it were absorbed into the Christian faith (EX: Fortuna managed to eek out an existance for herself going from a goddess to an angel or something like that... And is now worshiped by FE players in the form of Anna as they beg for good level ups) or directly inspired other parts (the classic 'image' of God being based on Zeus and Dante's version of hell being heavily inspired by the Underworld).

Science doesnt get a free pass, as science relies on theories and then either proving or disproving that theory through tests and evidence.
Religion only requires blind acceptance and faith


So you think people like Issac Newton, Ben Franklin, and Archimedes were dumb; yet the anti-vaxxer who blindly followed an article she found on the internet is 'scientific'? That someone like Plato or Descartes or Paine is intellectually inferior to a flat-earther whom spends time and money to conduct and test their theories to 'prove' that the earth is flat because the former three were religious and despite the latter engaging in the scientific method (to prove their own, incorrect and biased, beliefs; yes)? That someone like Ghandi should be mocked and belitted for their faith yet Stalin or Mao lauded for their atheism? That people don't believe just as fanatically in things like political ideology or 'sciences' such as eugenics, if not more-so, than religion? Or warp/co-opt science for their political positions? Do you SERIOUSLY believe that blind acceptance and faith comes only from religion yet anyone who believes in science is inherently smart/wise/etc? Such an attitude and belief is the start of true ignorance.
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