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Topic	"Teach men not to rape"
legendary_zell 10/20/19 2:21:21 PM #64:	berlyman101 posted... legendary_zell posted... A lot of people actually don't understand sexual scripts and consent. We're not talking about jump out from behind the bush and drag you into an alley rapists. That's a relatively small group of rapists anyway. Most rapists are known to their victims. We're talking about them rapists that know their victims, that interact with them repeatedly, and that ignore signs or statements withdrawing consent. If you ask people whether rape is okay, even rapists will say no. That doesn't mean anything. But when you start talking to people about specific situations and what is okay and what is not, you will receive some shocking answers and thats where the teaching comes in. Basic actual teaching about how to navigate consent safely would fix a lot of things and save a lot of pain for everyone. Instead, we leave it up to parents who don't wanna talk about it and teens to share info with each other when there's no guarantee they have any idea what they're talking about. A lot of those shocking answers come from misleading or confusingly presented scenarios. They don't describe the actual rape. Well the actual, real life situations where these things happen are confusing and ambiguous. That's the problem. We have to prepare people to handle that ambiguity and not just barrel ahead assuming they have consent. Just a little hesitation, a little questioning, a little thinking about the situation can help a lot. Equipping guys with those tools isn't maligning them or accusing them of all being animals or rapists in waiting. It's harm prevention. Just like in elementary school you actually do have to affirmatively teach all children not to simply hit people even when they're mad or frustrated or feel threatened. Some people wouldn't do it anyway but a lot more people will do it if you don't give them strategies on how to avoid it. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:929011908] in "Teac... [t:78099014]...</cite> <quote>berlyman101 posted...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>A lot of people actually don't understand sexual scripts and consent. We're not talking about jump out from behind the bush and drag you into an alley rapists. That's a relatively small group of rapists anyway. Most rapists are known to their victims. We're talking about them rapists that know their victims, that interact with them repeatedly, and that ignore signs or statements withdrawing consent. If you ask people whether rape is okay, even rapists will say no. That doesn't mean anything. But when you start talking to people about specific situations and what is okay and what is not, you will receive some shocking answers and thats where the teaching comes in. Basic actual teaching about how to navigate consent safely would fix a lot of things and save a lot of pain for everyone. Instead, we leave it up to parents who don't wanna talk about it and teens to share info with each other when there's no guarantee they have any idea what they're talking about.</quote> A lot of those shocking answers come from misleading or confusingly presented scenarios. They don't describe the actual rape. </quote> Well the actual, real life situations where these things happen are confusing and ambiguous. That's the problem. We have to prepare people to handle that ambiguity and not just barrel ahead assuming they have consent. Just a little hesitation, a little questioning, a little thinking about the situation can help a lot. Equipping guys with those tools isn't maligning them or accusing them of all being animals or rapists in waiting. It's harm prevention. Just like in elementary school you actually do have to affirmatively teach all children not to simply hit people even when they're mad or frustrated or feel threatened. Some people wouldn't do it anyway but a lot more people will do it if you don't give them strategies on how to avoid it. --- https://imgur.com/0Bi86cp</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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