Current Events > "Teach men not to rape"

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I have heard this turned into a slogan to fix society.

But who specifically is supposed to be teaching this?

Mothers?

That black guy from the gilette commercial. He's going to single handedly save society.
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Majority of men already know not to rape. That slogan is about as effective as "teach people not to murder"

coh posted...

Majority of men already know not to rape. That slogan is about as effective as "teach people not to murder"

They really dont, though
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coh posted...

Majority of men already know not to rape. That slogan is about as effective as "teach people not to murder"

Got any data proving this?

How am I suppose to reverse all this information I was taught as w kid about how to rape?

.... actually that's not as farfetched as I thought when I was writing that joke. But people gotta learn generalizing men like this is never gonna help anything. I know it's not about me but a lot of men who would never rape take it as a direct attack for whatever reason.
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butthole666 posted...

They really dont, though

That's kinda offensive to men don't you think?

Tbf, if we could reach our own butts we'd probably rape ourselves. We're monsters
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Ridiculous how feminists have pushed this narrative of all men being potential rapists in waiting.

Only one person even tried to answer the original question so far....

Btw, the white guy thay got stopped by black Gilette guy wasn't intending to rape anyone.

'Teach men not to rape '

Okay let's start with these religions that teach that its okay to treat women like -

'NO! Teach men not to rape without mentioning religion or the military'

This is why I find it hard to take seriously
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FrozenXylophone posted...

Btw, the white guy thay got stopped by black Gilette guy wasn't intending to rape anyone.

They clearly were implying he was going to rape her.
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FrozenXylophone posted...

Only one person even tried to answer the original question so far....

Btw, the white guy thay got stopped by black Gilette guy wasn't intending to rape anyone.

Well the answer is clearly us, as a collective society

Your question is kinda dumb. No one answered it because no one took it seriously
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Webmaster4531 posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

Btw, the white guy thay got stopped by black Gilette guy wasn't intending to rape anyone.

They clearly were implying he was going to rape her.

Ummm no.
Clearly he was about to be like you so sexy and fine girl.

Webmaster4531 posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

Btw, the white guy thay got stopped by black Gilette guy wasn't intending to rape anyone.

They clearly were implying he was going to rape her.

Link to all this?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

Only one person even tried to answer the original question so far....

Btw, the white guy thay got stopped by black Gilette guy wasn't intending to rape anyone.

Well the answer is clearly us, as a collective society

Your question is kinda dumb. No one answered it because no one took it seriously

Us as a society is a non-answer.

You mean schools will teach it?

Parents will? The mother or the father?

Or is UnfairRepresent gonna walk up to kids on a playground and yell "boys! Don't be rapists!"

Men and white people are being treated like absolute shit by all the people demanding equality and fairness or calling for an end to racism or sexism. Makes no sense. What is even going on with society anymore?

Chicken_Butt posted...

Men and white people are being treated like absolute shit by all the people demanding equality and fairness or calling for an end to racism or sexism. Makes no sense. What is even going on with society anymore?

They see it as payback for the perceived injustices done to them

Perhaps they aren't aware of the saying "an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind"

FrozenXylophone posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

Btw, the white guy thay got stopped by black Gilette guy wasn't intending to rape anyone.

They clearly were implying he was going to rape her.

Ummm no.
Clearly he was about to be like you so sexy and fine girl.

Yeah, then he was going to chloroform her because no one taught him not to.
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FrozenXylophone posted...

Us as a society is a non-answer.

Not really.

Who taught you the cultural aspects of society that you know and accept?

A combination of everyone you ever met including complete strangers.
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Chicken_Butt posted...

white people

Oh shut up.
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DuranOfForcena posted...

butthole666 posted...

coh posted...

Majority of men already know not to rape. That slogan is about as effective as "teach people not to murder"

They really dont, though

yes they do, fuck off with this bullshit

Brock Turner?

FrozenXylophone posted...

coh posted...

Majority of emen already know not to rape. That slogan is about as effective as "teach people not to murder"

Got any data proving this?

what's the percentage of women that say they've been raped? a quick google search says 5%. now if most men "don't know not to rape" that number would be much higher. and yes, i'm aware that rape is an under reported crime, but it's ridiculous to think that the actual number is so high as to suggest that most men are out committing the act.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

Chicken_Butt posted...

white people

Oh shut up.

Nothing is worse than a white mans feelings being hurt. If you disagree, you're racist.
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mustachedmystic posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

coh posted...

Majority of emen already know not to rape. That slogan is about as effective as "teach people not to murder"

Got any data proving this?

what's the percentage of women that say they've been raped? a quick google search says 5%. now if most men "don't know not to rape" that number would be much higher. and yes, i'm aware that rape is an under reported crime, but it's ridiculous to think that the actual number is so high as to suggest that most men are out committing the act.

I can't help but think you're intentioning missing the point here.
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mustachedmystic posted...

FrozenXylophone posted...

coh posted...

Majority of emen already know not to rape. That slogan is about as effective as "teach people not to murder"

Got any data proving this?

what's the percentage of women that say they've been raped? a quick google search says 5%. now if most men "don't know not to rape" that number would be much higher. and yes, i'm aware that rape is an under reported crime, but it's ridiculous to think that the actual number is so high as to suggest that most men are out committing the act.

One in five women reported being raped in their lifetime - that's 20%?

https://www.nsvrc.org/node/4737

DuranOfForcena posted...

Ruvan22 posted...

DuranOfForcena posted...

butthole666 posted...

coh posted...

Majority of men already know not to rape. That slogan is about as effective as "teach people not to murder"

They really dont, though

yes they do, fuck off with this bullshit

Brock Turner?

???

what is the point of this post?

You didn't want to provide any evidence that "majority of men know not to rape", I was pointing out one who didn't

UnfairRepresent posted...

I can't help but think you're intentioning missing the point here.

believe me, if i am, it's not intentional.
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How to teach men not to rape: https://www.insidehighered.com/advice/2017/03/10/professor-describes-how-she-teaches-students-about-sexual-assault-essay
I can't find the paper, but studies have shown that teach men not to rape works. Even the slightest education cuts down on reported sexual assaults.

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ChocoboMogALT posted...

How to teach men not to rape: https://www.insidehighered.com/advice/2017/03/10/professor-describes-how-she-teaches-students-about-sexual-assault-essay
I can't find the paper, but studies have shown that teach men not to rape works. Even the slightest education cuts down on reported sexual assaults.

So it should be done by schools?

College level?

ChocoboMogALT posted...

How to teach men not to rape: https://www.insidehighered.com/advice/2017/03/10/professor-describes-how-she-teaches-students-about-sexual-assault-essay
I can't find the paper, but studies have shown that teach men not to rape works. Even the slightest education cuts down on reported sexual assaults.

the only answer for bastards who don't learn the lesson is long jail sentences, they're a danger to the public anyway.
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Ruvan22 posted...

One in five women reported being raped in their lifetime - that's 20%?

yes, that's correct.
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It's way better for society to teach this than to teach women to not get raped like society does.

*Honk Honk*

mustachedmystic posted...

Ruvan22 posted...

One in five women reported being raped in their lifetime - that's 20%?

yes, that's correct.

So over 50% of men are raping 20% of women?
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FrozenXylophone posted...

So it should be done by schools?

College level?

Yes. HS and college. You can also teach little kids about basic notions of consent and what is amd isn't appropriate, including adult authority.

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Webmaster4531 posted...

mustachedmystic posted...

Ruvan22 posted...

One in five women reported being raped in their lifetime - that's 20%?

yes, that's correct.

So over 50% of men are raping 20% of women?

in india, i'm sure they're doing that.
women are treated as second class citizens over there.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

mustachedmystic posted...

Ruvan22 posted...

One in five women reported being raped in their lifetime - that's 20%?

yes, that's correct.

So over 50% of men are raping 20% of women?

are you misunderstanding what side of the argument i'm on? i'm trying to say that most men don't rape, and in fact know that it's wrong.
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mustachedmystic posted...

Webmaster4531 posted...

mustachedmystic posted...

Ruvan22 posted...

One in five women reported being raped in their lifetime - that's 20%?

yes, that's correct.

So over 50% of men are raping 20% of women?

are you misunderstanding what side of the argument i'm on? i'm trying to say that most men don't rape, and in fact know that it's wrong.

I'm just being absurd hoping people would catch on. Over 50% of the male population including repeat offenders would not by coincidence miss out on over 80% of targets.
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I think this slogan is ultimately calling for more emotional maturity. We see women as being very studious and in touch with their feelings, but it's because women are held to a different standard, or even a "lower" standard - they can cry and get emotional because they're girls, but if you're a boy who cries, you're weak and you need to man up. Expressing emotions like that is weak and beneath you.

But for that trade off, boys can be rambunctious little shits. And while kids should be able to be kids, it's enabling that sort of behavior through their schooling lives that fucks people up. Women, who are able to forge close, touchy-feely relationships with their friends, grow up with more emotional maturity because they've been free to express themselves with other people and develop those feelings of emotional fulfillment and adequacy. But men are characterised as expressing wild and reckless behaviour, with crying reserved for "manly" moments or for drinking too much and becoming overwhelmed.

We have funny "no homo" moments that can be extremely gay, with an understanding that it's all just a fun little joke, but there are people who have "no homo" behavior so engrained in their psyche that they would be uncomfortable at the concept of a genuine, platonic hug from a friend. Women are encouraged to cry, develop close personal relationships and be close to other girls. Men are encouraged to drink, be obtuse, be the life of the party and be an emotional rock for other people to rely on without putting that same burden on others.

"Teach men not to rape" is one thing. The root of this slogan comes from stunting the emotional growth of boys to the point that they can't function in life without the guidance of a hopeless cliche - with that cliche occasionally including normalised rape, like in old screwball comedies with passed out chicks and horny teenagers. By normalising reckless behavior as the standard "man" thing to do, men grow up to be sex pests and alcoholics and emotionally unavailable. We don't develop the same emotional intelligence as women do because recklessness, entitlement and repression takes the place of talking openly and frankly about your emotions with the people you're close to, and being able to hug your friends without shame or judgement.

Everyone's upbringing is different, but I think there's a lot to unpack about the male experience. "Teaching men not to rape" starts at "don't hold boys to different emotional standards than girls". Girls shouldn't be pushed towards shouldering a majority of the emotional workload around them, while boys are regaled with lighthearted stories about dipping girls' pigtails in paint tins. Boys shouldn't be taught to fear public humiliation in response to crying or hugging their male friends, when girls are expected to be close with each other to the point of sharing beds with each other. The seed of that phrase "teach men not to rape" starts at how you treat kids based on their gender. More emotional intelligence across the board would result in a net win for everybody.
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shockthemonkey posted...

Always weird when dudes rally against the idea of teaching people not to rape

I have to agree.

This whole angle of "Well when you say society, Which 1 specific person do you mean!?" and "Well lots of people don't do it, therefore why should we oppose it?" are arguments that hold so little water Sub-Zero isn't even scared when you swing it around your head.

IF it was literally any negative thing other than rape, no one would be saying these ludicrious non-arguments and being so intellectually dishonest
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shockthemonkey posted...

Always weird when dudes rally against the idea of teaching people not to rape

Almost as weird as pretending that society doesn't already condemn rapists as human trash.
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The implication that all men are accountable for rapists and that all men will inherently rape is extremely offensive and disgusting. The types of language people who push these messages use incriminate anyone who disagrees with that notion under the guise that they're somehow therefore disagreeing that rape is wrong, and that's not what's being said at all.

Clown shoes. Clown shoes all around.

ThePrinceFish posted...

Almost as weird as pretending that society doesn't already condemn rapists as human trash.

We elected one as President.
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