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TopicMartin Scorsese: Marvel movies are not 'cinema'
Aaantlion
10/12/19 8:52:47 PM
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Monopoman posted...

No, it proves that they CAN do well, which is literally what I said in very explicit terms. There's absolutely no reason why blockbusters can't also be award-winners and pretending you have to pick between one or the other is a great example of a false dilemma. Titanic, one of the biggest blockbusters of all time, also won ELEVEN Oscars.


That's all well and good if the Oscars gave the same credit to large budget movies, the Oscars don't like movies that usually take big budgets.

You act like the Oscar committee treats all films equally when they really prefer movies that are about things that don't take a $200 million dollar budget to make. Shit the only reason most of the bigger budget films get nominated is the regular people were always upset that in 99% of years none of the movies everyone went and see got nominations for best picture.

I mean I guess they could have spent $250 million dollars making something like Green Book or Moonlight but the majority of the money would go to just actors since those movies did not need large budgets to be made. Remember kids the people that actually have the power to vote in winners in the Oscars are mostly in their 70's+ and they aren't down with what the kids like.


Treats all films equally is a stretch because they favor certain genres over others. However, budget isn't something that hurts a film. The bullshit that the budget gets spent on is usually the bigger issue, since it generally just goes for special effects and those tend to only win awards in certain categories. And while recent Best Picture winners have generally had budgets of no more than $25m, it's worth remembering that other films *nominated* for Best Picture have had substantially higher budgets. Wolf of Wall Street, for instance, had a $100m budget... and, while it didn't win Best Picture, it took home other awards. In fact, you seem to forget that awards other than Best Picture exist >_>

And Black Panther received nominations, so clearly it can happen. The thing is that Marvel doesn't give a shit about art, which is why it usually doesn't even get a nod. And the fact it doesn't care about art goes a long way in explaining why people are so dismissive of it.

(It's also worth noting that Heath Ledger posthumously won an Oscar for Best Supporting Actor for his work as the Joker in the big budget TDK, but it's debatable whether he would have been passed over if he hadn't died.)
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