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Topic	I'm at a national conference for work. Lots more socialists than years past
MedeaLysistrata 10/03/19 5:15:24 PM #95:	averagejoel posted... Broseph_Stalin posted... Probably not since Soviet industry was inherently inefficient anyway. The small amount of farmland that was privatized in the USSR (~2%) produced more than a quarter of the agricultural output, for example. even if this is true (which I'm gonna need to see a source for by the way), that doesn't actually mean that the industries were "inherently" inefficient Sorry to just jump on this... but are you saying that once people gaining control of the means of production it became productive?HydraSlayer82 posted... Godnorgosh posted... Proudclad isn't too different from many of us in that he seeks a post-capitalist society where profit is no longer the prime directive of production. I think he wouldn't call such a society socialist if it were to come about, but then it's mostly just a nominal disagreement at that point. Yeah I think Proudclad believes in human centric capitalism, no? What do you think of Yang @pls ? Isnt Proudclad mostly pro capitalist? Wouldnt a progressive capitalist want to minimize work time investmentment but maximize profit? --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:928293072] in I'm at a n... [t:78059216]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote>Broseph_Stalin posted...</cite> <quote>Probably not since Soviet industry was inherently inefficient anyway. The small amount of farmland that was privatized in the USSR (~2%) produced more than a quarter of the agricultural output, for example.</quote> even if this is true (which I'm gonna need to see a source for by the way), that doesn't actually mean that the industries were "inherently" inefficient</quote> Sorry to just jump on this... but are you saying that once people gaining control of the means of production it became productive?HydraSlayer82 posted...</cite> <quote>Godnorgosh posted...</cite> <quote>Proudclad isn't too different from many of us in that he seeks a post-capitalist society where profit is no longer the prime directive of production. I think he wouldn't call such a society socialist if it were to come about, but then it's mostly just a nominal disagreement at that point.</quote> Yeah I think Proudclad believes in human centric capitalism, no? What do you think of Yang @pls ?</quote> Isnt Proudclad mostly pro capitalist? Wouldnt a progressive capitalist want to minimize work time investmentment but maximize profit? --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...]</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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