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| ParanoidObsessive 08/27/19 12:39:25 AM #125: | WhiskeyDisk posted... At this point I just don't see why Disney/Marvel doesn't just get all of Marvel's IP's back at this point to do it all properly instead of having this hodge-podge that lets other companies take their ball and go home to keep running properties into the ground just to keep the rights. They would if they could, but Marvel sold off the rights back when the company was borderline bankrupt, and was desperately trying to survive, so the terms of all their deals are hellaciously unfair to them for the most part. Sony and Fox basically controlled the rights forever as long as they continued to make movies within a certain time frame (for Fox, it was apparently something close to 8 years for the Fantastic Four movies, while for Sony it seems like they have to make a Spider-Man movie within a 5 year window, since both the 2015 FF movie and Amazing Spider-Man were supposedly made to retain rights). Fox ultimately sold those rights back with the rest of their IP, but Sony still has theirs and always will until they default. Disney desperately wants to end all of those sorts of deals, but can't. They can offer to buy out the terms (which they have, though almost no one ever accepts because the rights are worth more than the potential buyout), and they can buy entire companies or IP catalogues that include the content (which is what happened with Fox), and they can luck out and have someone screw up and fail to meet the terms (ie, what would happen if Sony goes 6+ years without making a new Spider-Man film), but they can't just say "No, you can't have that any more." Basically, if they COULD say that, Fox and Sony would have lost those deals 10 years ago, and the MCU would look a LOT different right now. Ironically, it seems like the company Disney is never going to be able to settle with is Universal. It seems like they actually had some of the most one-sided deals Marvel made with anyone, and they have absolutely no interest in giving up their rights at all (mainly because it seems like they own them more or less forever, and don't have to make movies to retain them). It's why we'll likely never see a solo Hulk film again - Disney would have to make a HUGE payout to Universal, or potentially have to arrange a profit-sharing co-release deal, and they're not going to do that. Namor was also trapped in that particular hate loop for a bit, though he's supposedly free now. Broken_Zeus posted... I still love those. And those were cheaper than trying to get the trading card ones. I hated them - I always thought they were super-tacky, and they usually looked like crap. Holograms, prismatic, foil, etc - it was all just extra cost for something I never wanted. Trading cards sucked too. I was so not the target audience for all that stuff back then. I just wanted to read the damned comics. That's part of what led me to gravitate away from Marvel towards Valiant around that time, but then they kicked Jim Shooter out and sold off to Acclaim, and became worse than everybody else so I ultimately bailed. They still owe me free comics, though. I won some in a contest and they never sent them to me, the fuckers. Broken_Zeus posted... ...and, after a lot of googling, apparently it was a concept by this artist: He's a pretty famous artist. He's done a ton of fantasy novel covers. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family ... Copied to Clipboard! |
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