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Lightning Strikes posted...

CoolCly posted...

To be clear, the deal for Spidey originally was extremely atrocious for Marvel - they do all of the work and get none of the financial benefit.

They just really wanted Spidey in their movies. There's plenty for room to argue that they benefited from having him around anyways and they most certainly did

But it's not outrageous or greedy for them to want to renegotiate an equal deal when they are the ones making magic happen. They've proven they know how to make live action Spidey great and successful while Sony doesn't. It would be silly to keep handing all of the profit to Sony.

To say "Sony just wanted to keep the same deal as the first two movies." as if that's a fair and equitable thing and they are being reasonable is pretty absurd.

Disney could probably come down on 50/50 but taking the same deal as before would be pretty bad. I'd guess it's Sony refusing to come up at all here.

This is completely incorrect. Sony produce the films entirely, including complete financing, distribution, and marketing. Marvel has creative oversight but that is it. Even that is not complete creative control, the Far From Home mid-credits scene was Sony's proposal for instance. It is the other way around, Sony were the ones doing the work. Marvel also get 100% of merchandising. 5% is actually better than the original deal too, which was a flat fee.

Make no mistake - the Tom Holland Spider-Man movies are Sony pictures. Sony made the films with Marvel's help, not the other way around.

I'm sure a deal will be reached though, hopefully not depending on Disney further tightening their grip on everything.

Now, I notice you say "Sony produce the films entirely, including complete financing, distribution, and marketing" which makes it a Sony picture except you left out a small crucial piece of of the puzzle of making a movie which is actually making the movie. Production.

Marvel made the movies, full stop. You are wrong about that. They cast the film, their composer that did Doctor Strange did the score, Victoria Alonso was the producer who made most of the decisions, they chose the directors and screenwriters and worked with them to plot out the movie, they worked with the FX vendors... literally every step of production was done by Marvel. Everything about how those movies were made came from Marvel, not Sony. They brought in their people that knew what they were doing and made awesome movies. The expertise that led to everything in these movies would have been absent if Marvel was not involved.

Sony financed the film of course, Marvel wouldn't spend the $200 million to make the movie and not get any return at all, which is why the new Disney proposal is cofinancing, not just a share in the profits. They both contribute to the budget and proportionally get profit back.

Distribution, sure, but distribution is completely separate from making the film and is often done by a different company than the one who actually makes the movie, which is the case here.

The deal could be summarized as this. "hey Marvel here's $200 million go make me a movie. ok thanks for the movie I'm gonna sell this and keep all the money thanks for doing that, see ya next time"
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