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Topic	Trump apparently wants to buy Greenland
darkknight109 08/19/19 12:29:43 PM #26:	Zeus posted... Otherwise the offer was made in 1946 which wasn't "the height of the Cold War," it would have been right at the beginning of the conflict or possibly even predating it. Man, your history knowledge is pretty shaky. Soviet/US relations had already been souring sharply long before WW2 ended, and the division of Germany (and the US's frantic attempts to keep the Soviets out of Japan, which may or may not have included the decision to drop the atomic bombs) only highlight that point. The US was strongly anti-communist before WW2 had even began (Hitler was a darling of some elements of the American right for being the most effective anti-leftist/anti-communist that Europe had) and those sentiments didn't fade during the war. Whether or not it was officially titled such, the Cold War was absolutely in full swing by the time the war ended. The Americans just decided to make it official in '46. Zeus posted... It's a great comparison in the sense that the idea is nothing new or novel, as you seem to pretend. When did I say it was new or novel? Zeus posted... Clearly it's not so much a "OMG! Crazy Trump idea!" as it is a matter of the US having long-recognized the strategic value of having Greenland It would be strategically beneficial for the US to own Australia, Japan, Britain, and the entirety of South America. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be batshit crazy for Trump to try and buy those things too. Zeus posted... and, as such, makes it pretty damn likely that the idea was considered by other administrations. He says without offering a scrap of evidence to back up his claim. So I'll counter with my own unfounded claim - I'm pretty sure that if any other administrations did float this fever dream of an idea, they probably had people in charge smart enough to recognize it was a complete non-starter of an idea, given that countries these days aren't typically in the habit of just selling off large chunks of their own territory. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:926264221] in Trump appa... [t:77943500]...</cite> <quote>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Otherwise the offer was made in 1946 which wasn't "the height of the Cold War," it would have been right at the beginning of the conflict or possibly even predating it. </quote> Man, your history knowledge is pretty shaky. Soviet/US relations had already been souring sharply long before WW2 ended, and the division of Germany (and the US's frantic attempts to keep the Soviets out of Japan, which may or may not have included the decision to drop the atomic bombs) only highlight that point. The US was strongly anti-communist before WW2 had even began (Hitler was a darling of some elements of the American right for being the most effective anti-leftist/anti-communist that Europe had) and those sentiments didn't fade during the war. Whether or not it was officially titled such, the Cold War was absolutely in full swing by the time the war ended. The Americans just decided to make it official in '46. Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>It's a great comparison in the sense that the idea is nothing new or novel, as you seem to pretend.</quote> When did I say it was new or novel? Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Clearly it's not so much a "OMG! Crazy Trump idea!" as it is a matter of the US having long-recognized the strategic value of having Greenland</quote> It would be strategically beneficial for the US to own Australia, Japan, Britain, and the entirety of South America. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be batshit crazy for Trump to try and buy those things too. Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>and, as such, makes it pretty damn likely that the idea was considered by other administrations.</quote> He says without offering a scrap of evidence to back up his claim. So I'll counter with my own unfounded claim - I'm pretty sure that if any other administrations did float this fever dream of an idea, they probably had people in charge smart enough to recognize it was a complete non-starter of an idea, given that countries these days aren't typically in the habit of just selling off large chunks of their own territory. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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