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Kyuubi4269 posted...

Aaantlion posted...

I know that the crime rate in Brazil is insane and something more needs to be done, but giving cops this much discretionary power -- especially when some may be in the pockets of criminals -- seems like this could cause whole new sets of problems. I don't even trust Judge Dredd with that much power.

US cops shoot at suspected criminals freely, Brazil is just allowing actual criminals to be shot dead.

...no, Brazil's policy would have the bar lower than the US's.

kangolcone posted...

Most of the police who kill citizens in the US never face prosecution.

And why would they? If they were determined to have acted within the responsibilities of their position, there's no reason why it should go to trial. And while headlines are devoted to the more ostentatiously egregious uses or abuses of power, the average incident usually doesn't resemble that. More importantly, EVERY lethal use of force is investigated and I *believe* even discharging a firearm carries an investigation. You have a process already.

kangolcone posted...

Moreover, Trump has previously praised actions like this such as Duerte sanctioning the execution of drug dealers by police.

Basically what Im saying is given where we are as a country, Im not sure we have the ability to judge this without a pot-kettle situation.

Pot-kettle is a weak argument when you're comparing a nation doing something to a nation where the leader praises somebody for doing something. And a lot of the Duterte stuff iirc goes beyond the cops.

As for whether or not we can judge, the only semi-defense would be that the Philippines is suffering more severe problems than the US. However, even that doesn't seem like a particularly good excuse because they could just not kill people.

Mead posted...

Insane that they elected that man. Im glad Im not in Brazil.

Well, Brazil has more problems than just an authoritarian leader. It also has the world's 13th highest murder rate; that rate is 30.5 per 100k people. It outranks nations like Colombia and Mexico (numbers 18 and 19 respectively, roughly 24 murders per 100k people). For all the shit people talk about the US, we're #89 with a rate of 5.3 per 100k.

streamofthesky posted...

It's so weird to see right wing posters who whine about big government in almost any other case, often endorsing having a government officially sanction extrajudicial death squads.
The utter hypocrisy is so glaring, but they've mastered the art of cognitive dissonance.

I will at least give credit to Zeus for being ideologically consistent (this time) and voicing concerns about it.

And I'll once again criticize you for your consistent rightwing ideology mischaracterization.
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