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Topic	POLL: Should transgenders be allowed to participate in women's sports?
Jakyl25 07/10/19 6:50:10 PM #189:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Lopen posted... Corrik7 posted... The reason the women's divisions began is because it was so women wouldn't get hurt against men and so they could compete and actually play. (This is to Jakyl) If it's actually just about representing men and women that's fine. What is your counterpoint to that, though? One could argue that preserving a competitive environment is also paramount. Do you think that trans women being the new meta for women's division dominance is okay? What about the biological females that also want to compete? I feel thats a moot point, since it happens so rarely that a trans athlete dominates amongst the thousands of them participating in sports that you cannot logically say that its due to their biology In some hypothetical universe where trans women dominated biological females, there would probably be enough trans women to start a different league How many transgender athletes are failing to dominate in women's sports? Because you talk like you know this happens rarely. I want numbers. To be honest no one knows, because trans athletes being out of the closet is relatively new. But the few that are out really dont dominate. Fallon Fox was not a championship level fighter. Renee Richards never won a tennis major. Hannah Mounceys team doesnt win World Handball Championships. Theres a list of more on Wikipedia I can sift through Heres the IOC guidelines for the Olympics The new guidelines require only that trans woman athletes declare their gender and not change that assertion for four years, and demonstrate a testosterone level of less than 10 nanomoles/liter for at least one year prior to competition and throughout the period of eligibility. Athletes who transitioned from female to male were allowed to compete without restriction. These guidelines were in effect for the 2016 Rio Olympics, although no openly transgender athletes competed.[9] --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:924514094] in POLL: Shou... [t:77804935]...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Jakyl25 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Lopen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>The reason the women's divisions began is because it was so women wouldn't get hurt against men and so they could compete and actually play.</quote> (This is to Jakyl) If it's actually just about representing men and women that's fine. What is your counterpoint to that, though? One could argue that preserving a competitive environment is also paramount. Do you think that trans women being the new meta for women's division dominance is okay? What about the biological females that also want to compete?</quote> I feel thats a moot point, since it happens so rarely that a trans athlete dominates amongst the thousands of them participating in sports that you cannot logically say that its due to their biology In some hypothetical universe where trans women dominated biological females, there would probably be enough trans women to start a different league</quote> How many transgender athletes are failing to dominate in women's sports? Because you talk like you know this happens rarely. I want numbers.</quote> To be honest no one knows, because trans athletes being out of the closet is relatively new. But the few that are out really dont dominate. Fallon Fox was not a championship level fighter. Renee Richards never won a tennis major. Hannah Mounceys team doesnt win World Handball Championships. Theres a list of more on Wikipedia I can sift through Heres the IOC guidelines for the Olympics <quote>The new guidelines require only that trans woman athletes declare their gender and not change that assertion for four years, and demonstrate a testosterone level of less than 10 nanomoles/liter for at least one year prior to competition and throughout the period of eligibility. Athletes who transitioned from female to male were allowed to compete without restriction. These guidelines were in effect for the 2016 Rio Olympics, although no openly transgender athletes competed.[9]</quote> --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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