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Zeus
07/07/19 4:44:34 AM
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While walking earlier, I was thinking about fantasy and the public domain. Specifically, there's a lot of shit that D&D out on the map that other things kinda use and I was curious at what point things reach infringement levels. For example, afaik the concept of slimes as a monster basically came from D&D as did the common conceptions of a lich. Yet a lot of non-D&D sanctioned fantasy tends to use them.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
It also doesn't help that her entire history prior to the Thrawn books is as a secret insert character who was always doing really super-important stuff behind the scenes except no one ever knew about it and the audience never got to see it. Like she was in Jabba's palace during the RotJ scenes. That can come across REALLY Mary Sue-ish to an audience unless handled almost perfectly. So you'd probably have to drop those, and just make her an agent of the Emperor who comes after Luke after the Emperor dies... but then lacking the actual ability to TELL the story of how they interact and how she eventually overcomes her hate and marries him, you'd basically be left just having Luke have a redhead wife in the sequels who is little more than an easter egg. Or you'd have to establish that she died years ago, which is what prompted him into self-exile.


...or you could trim down on some of the behind the scene shit that directly intersected with major events seen in the film, unless they could reuse outfits shown in the film to make it look like she was always there.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
I don't think you could ever really get her as a canon character in the current movies and have her live up to her own potential. At that point we might be better off not having her at all.


She could have a solo feature. Keep in mind that the more something ties into the OT, the more fans like it. Case-in-point would be Rogue One, which was the only passable SW film Disney has done.

ParanoidObsessive posted...
The only way I honestly see keeping the entirety of the EU canon working in the new movies would be if they skipped ahead like a thousand years. Every single character we've ever known is long dead and little more than a historical figure in textbooks, or forgotten entirely. The New Republic still stands (though maybe with a name change to the Second Republic, or something else entirely, because it's not all that new anymore), but the Jedi are long dead, gone, and completely forgotten. So you can say "Yeah, all the EU stuff actually happened and is canon, but none of it matters because it was so long ago we can do whatever we want with the new films and not have to constantly reference the EU or slavishly follow what it established."


What's the point, though? If you take it too far out, there's nothing that's going to jive with fans.
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