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Topic	Dang Andrew Yang is all over youtube
Taily_Po 06/28/19 4:36:47 PM #9:	Mead posted... UBI is an important thing to discuss as a nation even if its not the right thing to do. If something is the wrong thing to do, why would you do it? We don't put sharks in public swimming pools because that would be stupid, so why would we seriously talk about putting sharks in swimming pools? Mead posted... Its not a replacement for peoples income, its there to provide support and security considering so many households would be completely sunk if they ran into some unexpected bill from an emergency room visit or something similar. We already have multiple social safety nets for that and, more importantly, UBI doesn't really address those issues in the first place and would serve to deplete money people could have saved to address those issues in the first place. Keep in mind that UBI isn't magic money coming from thin air, it would need to come from taxes and most of those taxes would need to come from citizens themselves. Mead posted... Without it or some real plan to deal with the mass automation of jobs our economy is gonna crash and burn worse than it has in generations. Every swing state that Trump won was a state where millions of jobs had been replaced by automation and almost no politicians are talking about that. ....which was literally already addressed multiple times when you brought it up in other topics. The nature of work has repeatedly changed over the years, so the loss of some jobs doesn't mean that new jobs won't replace them. Mead posted... You cant realistically expect millions upon millions of truckers, factory workers, retail employees, and food and beverage workers to just up and learn how to code and get replacement jobs that arent even there for them. You can't realistically expect the transition to occur that quickly. A lot of the people losing their jobs to automation are on the tailend of their careers and would be applying for benefits before taking SSI. Other forms of automation -- such as truckers and retail -- are still currently so far out that they aren't worth talking about or SUPPLEMENT rather than replace workers (ie, the McDonald's kiosks) --- "If I were a ghost, this is certainly the kind of place I'd haunt." <cite>Taily_Po posted [p:923980223] in Dang Andre... [t:77817983]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote> UBI is an important thing to discuss as a nation even if its not the right thing to do. </quote> If something is the wrong thing to do, why would you do it? We don't put sharks in public swimming pools because that would be stupid, so why would we seriously talk about putting sharks in swimming pools? <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Its not a replacement for peoples income, its there to provide support and security considering so many households would be completely sunk if they ran into some unexpected bill from an emergency room visit or something similar.</quote> We already have multiple social safety nets for that and, more importantly, UBI doesn't really address those issues in the first place and would serve to deplete money people could have saved to address those issues in the first place. Keep in mind that UBI isn't magic money coming from thin air, it would need to come from taxes and most of those taxes would need to come from citizens themselves. <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Without it or some real plan to deal with the mass automation of jobs our economy is gonna crash and burn worse than it has in generations. Every swing state that Trump won was a state where millions of jobs had been replaced by automation and almost no politicians are talking about that.</quote> ....which was literally already addressed multiple times when you brought it up in other topics. The nature of work has repeatedly changed over the years, so the loss of some jobs doesn't mean that new jobs won't replace them. <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>You cant realistically expect millions upon millions of truckers, factory workers, retail employees, and food and beverage workers to just up and learn how to code and get replacement jobs that arent even there for them.</quote> You can't realistically expect the transition to occur that quickly. A lot of the people losing their jobs to automation are on the tailend of their careers and would be applying for benefits before taking SSI. Other forms of automation -- such as truckers and retail -- are still currently so far out that they aren't worth talking about or SUPPLEMENT rather than replace workers (ie, the McDonald's kiosks) --- "If I were a ghost, this is certainly the kind of place I'd haunt."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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