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Topic	Baking a cake for a same-sex wedding? No!
nemu 05/23/19 5:19:00 PM #58:	DarkRoast posted... nemu posted... DarkRoast posted... nemu posted... What is the cake in this particular example? If it's "Congratulations on your wedding Todd and Howard" with two groom figures, I don't think there's any way you could say the person is being forced to make a design against their wishes unless they would refuse to put the names of a straight couple and groom and bride figures. I feel you'd need an extremely flamboyant cake to have any grounds for refusal. You can literally refuse to make a white cake if you're so inclined. Trying to set limits is missing the bigger picture - you shouldn't be able to tell someone else to make something exactly the way you want. If the person would put the names of a straight couple on a cake, they need to put the names of a gay couple as well. That is a direct service that is being declined due to the clients sexual orientation. He can refuse to do any customization he wants, for any reason he wants. As long as he offers a product of reasonable equivalence. Hell, there's nothing wrong with refusing to write Steve on a cake because you don't like the name Steve. It doesn't matter what the reason is. First amendment rights are what they are, no matter what your deeply held beliefs are. If it's a service you offered straight people, it needs to be upheld for gay people. If you have certain parameters in which you will customize a cake, those parameters must be upheld for all clientele. We're not talking about some kind of nonsense cake with "I [baker] support gay people in all aspects of life and denounce [religion]." Someone should not be allowed to refuse to make a portrait of a black person on a cake if they do portraits of white people. <cite>nemu posted [p:922282827] in Baking a c... [t:77735488]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nemu posted...</cite> <quote>What is the cake in this particular example? If it's "Congratulations on your wedding Todd and Howard" with two groom figures, I don't think there's any way you could say the person is being forced to make a design against their wishes unless they would refuse to put the names of a straight couple and groom and bride figures. I feel you'd need an extremely flamboyant cake to have any grounds for refusal.</quote> You can literally refuse to make a white cake if you're so inclined. Trying to set limits is missing the bigger picture - you shouldn't be able to tell someone else to make something exactly the way you want.</quote> If the person would put the names of a straight couple on a cake, they need to put the names of a gay couple as well. That is a direct service that is being declined due to the clients sexual orientation.</quote> He can refuse to do any customization he wants, for any reason he wants. As long as he offers a product of reasonable equivalence. Hell, there's nothing wrong with refusing to write Steve on a cake because you don't like the name Steve. It doesn't matter what the reason is. First amendment rights are what they are, no matter what your deeply held beliefs are.</quote> If it's a service you offered straight people, it needs to be upheld for gay people. If you have certain parameters in which you will customize a cake, those parameters must be upheld for all clientele. We're not talking about some kind of nonsense cake with "I [baker] support gay people in all aspects of life and denounce [religion]." Someone should not be allowed to refuse to make a portrait of a black person on a cake if they do portraits of white people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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