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04/30/19 3:03:15 AM
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CyborgSage00x0 posted...
Then again, to play Devil's advocate and offer a counter-point, part of that reasoning could be because audiences have known that all the films were building up to IW/Endgame for quite a while now, something basically unique in the history if film making, always giving audiences a reason to come back.

Yeah, but to double down on Advocating for Devils, we didn't really know that until we were already like 10 movies deep, and the converse is that Star Wars has pretty much ALWAYS claimed to be telling an overarching story with an implied end we're always working towards, so in theory knowing Infinity War is supposed to be an "ending" and seeing that end in sight doesn't necessarily justify a lack of fatigue if fatigue was the only factor.

(If we believe Lucas' constant lies and "readjustments of truth over time", Star Wars has always been the tale of the Skywalker family, and it was supposed to span 12 movies, so even points where it seems to "end" are just momentary pauses in the action building to a future unforeseen conclusion. Granted, literally every single word of that is bullshit, but plenty of people have believed that over the years, and each movie after the first HAS been sort of presented as a small piece of a larger story, so in theory looking forward to "how it ends" should be hyping people up more for Episode IX, whereas the reverse seems to be true for most people. Star Wars fatigue has essentially set in because most of us are finally kind of accepting that Star Wars is never really going to be worth caring about again.)

If anything, if it's just a question of repeated releases in a short period of time, "Marvel fatigue" should be even worse, because they release multiple movies in a single year, compounded by other companies ALSO occasionally releasing comic movies (Fox and Sony putting stuff out simultaneously in previous years, not to mention DC throwing their feces into the ring, and third-party stuff like Hellboy coming out now and then). Star Wars at least has the decency to only release one movie a year in recent years (with a lot more spacing between films previously).



WhiskeyDisk posted...
Even the worst MCU movies are arguably better than the majority of the Star Wars movies outside of the Original Trilogy.

That's right. I said it. Thor: Dark World, Iron Man 3, and The Incredible Hulk are still better than 2/3 of the Star Wars franchise at this point.

How low the mighty have fallen.

When you take the original trilogy and Rogue One out of the mix, I'd be willing to argue that there are a fair number of DC movies better than Star Wars as well.

I mean, hell, I'd rather watch Green Lantern again rather than the prequels or TFA/TLJ.

But I'll also stand up for Iron Man 3 and Thor 2. The first is way better than most people give it shit for being (I'd easily rank it above Iron Man 2, at any rate), and the latter mostly just suffers from being a somewhat dull, plodding, mediocre-ish movie that has the misfortune of being surrounded by way better movies. It's not terrible on its own (whereas I tend to see Incredible Hulk as being kind of bleh even without comparing it to other movies - I ever consider the Ang Lee Hulk to be better, no matter how much people hate it because it wasn't all HULK SMASH and made people's thinky bits hurt).


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