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WhiskeyDisk posted...

You do of course know there's a huge difference between logic logic, and movie logic, so I can't help but think you're expecting way too much of anyone steering the franchise after the prequels and playing dumb.

Yes, there's an implied empire of thousands of planets, but we both know nothing worth a damn to the overall narrative ever happened on more than a half dozen of them because...reasons.

I can actually justify this with cynicism.

Hollywood loves a happy ending, and assumes audiences are too stupid to enjoy nuanced or sad endings. Movies like "I Am Legend" were completely undermined and ruined because test audiences thought the ending was too sad, and execs don't give a shit about artistic integrity or thematic meaning if they think it will cost them revenue. Part of what made Infinity War so impactful is that most people didn't think Marvel was crazy enough to have Thanos WIN.

So I could easily see a Disney exec going "Wait, you want to end this movie how? No way. You are NOT killing off every major character. We need them alive to sell more toys, and so we can do a sequel if this one does well. The further adventures of Rogue One tweaking the Empire's nose is a license to print money. You can kill off the Bothans in the next movie, when they team up with Rogue One to steal the second set of plans. Also, make the Bothans cute furry animals. No, wait, you can't kill them either now, because that will make kids sad. Continuity? Who gives a fuck about continuity? I have a yacht to pay for."

In a world where that mentality absolutely exists, and where it can be easily justified in various ways that they all live, that they all die, or that some die and some live, that the people in-charge would push for a happier ending. That and the knowledge that movies like last-act surprises creates just enough uncertainty that at least some of them might make it out.



WhiskeyDisk posted...

Nobody is asking where Jyn Erso has been all this time.

In-universe? Why would anyone? She's either a top agent/spy who would be shrouded in secrecy to prevent the Empire from learning her whereabouts and catching her, or she's left the Rebellion behind and is either living peacefully on some backwater planet after putting her personal demons to rest or is continuing her scoundrel ways much like Han prior to Yavin. Either way, no one is going to be like "Man, I wish Jyn were here, she'd really love flying a Y-Wing and helping blow up this new Death Star!"

It would actually be less likely that anyone in the Rogue One group would ever be referenced in the original movies than it would be that they would. It would be like wondering why US troops landing in Normandy in a WWII film aren't constantly referencing specific people they knew who were at Pearl Harbor by name ("Man, Ensign Dan would really love being here and killing Nazis, too bad the Japanese got him back in '41").

That being said, there was actually leaked concept art of the "Knights of Ren" prior to TFA that made them ALL look suspiciously like vague versions of most of the characters from Rogue One, implying that five of them wound up falling into Snoke's hands at some point and got brainwashed/cybernized/etc into bad guys. So that introduced a bit of uncertainty into the mix as well. Tying Rogue One into the new sequels would have made perfect sense if they'd gone that route. We just didn't realize that it would have required them to actually HAVE a plan for the sequels. Silly us!


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