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ParanoidObsessive 04/27/19 2:49:43 AM #201:	Zeus posted... ParanoidObsessive posted... People didn't rip into TLJ because they were tired of Star Wars movies. They ripped into TLJ because it was terrible. If that was the reason, they would have ripped harder into TFA. A lot of people (myself included) said outright that "TFA is a mediocre film that is deliberately trying to rekindle the FEEL of Star Wars, so it's built almost entirely on nostalgia - and my opinion of it as a stand-alone film will shift depending on whether or not the next movie builds on that, or just does the same thing all over again." And to be fair to Disney, TLJ did neither. It forged its own path straight into the heart of atrocity. Which has actually left me somewhat on the fence about TFA. Should I hate it because TLJ failed to build on literally anything it set up? Or should I forgive it for the exact same reason? But a lot of people loved TFA, no matter what flaws it had, because it finally FELT like a Star Wars movie again, after years of the prequels being terrible. Ironically enough for a movie blatantly copying "A New Hope", it felt like a new hope. Which was the entire point. TFA was exactly what it NEEDED to be. If TFA had been an "unearned" Rogue One, or too much like the prequels, or even a (God help us) TLJ, it would have tanked the franchise hard, right after Disney paid a ton of money for it. They needed to breathe new life into it, and went the emotional exploitation route rather than the intellectual route (which was the right choice). It's a movie designed to make you feel good on first viewing, which isn't meant to stand up under repeated follow-up viewings. It was buying back audience trust and a willingness to allow future divergence. Yes, that coin was completely thrown away in TLJ when it diverged in entirely ridiculous and stupid ways, but if TFA had been followed up by a stronger film, it would have uplifted TFA by proxy. Sort of in the same way that LotR changes the context of The Hobbit when you read them in order, and LotR effectively turns The Hobbit into a more meaningful work (though that doesn't mean much when you film and show them in the wrong order, and stretch the Hobbit three times longer than it needs to be, and now we're going down a different, darker road of conversation). TFA was polarizing. Some people liked it, some people disliked it, some people were ambivalent about it, some people loved it, some people hated it, and some people were unsure about it and wanted to see how TLJ turned out before judging TFA too harshly. And that divide is why it wasn't savaged as badly as TLJ, which pretty much everyone everywhere hated all of the time for multiple reasons. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:921125125] in PotdMon: N... [t:77558720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ParanoidObsessive posted...</cite> <quote> People didn't rip into TLJ because they were tired of Star Wars movies. They ripped into TLJ because it was terrible.</quote> If that was the reason, they would have ripped harder into TFA.</quote> A lot of people (myself included) said outright that "TFA is a mediocre film that is deliberately trying to rekindle the FEEL of Star Wars, so it's built almost entirely on nostalgia - and my opinion of it as a stand-alone film will shift depending on whether or not the next movie builds on that, or just does the same thing all over again." And to be fair to Disney, TLJ did neither. It forged its own path straight into the heart of atrocity. Which has actually left me somewhat on the fence about TFA. Should I hate it because TLJ failed to build on literally anything it set up? Or should I forgive it for the exact same reason? But a lot of people loved TFA, no matter what flaws it had, because it finally FELT like a Star Wars movie again, after years of the prequels being terrible. Ironically enough for a movie blatantly copying "A New Hope", it felt like a new hope. Which was the entire point. TFA was exactly what it NEEDED to be. If TFA had been an "unearned" Rogue One, or too much like the prequels, or even a (God help us) TLJ, it would have tanked the franchise hard, right after Disney paid a ton of money for it. They needed to breathe new life into it, and went the emotional exploitation route rather than the intellectual route (which was the right choice). It's a movie designed to make you feel good on first viewing, which isn't meant to stand up under repeated follow-up viewings. It was buying back audience trust and a willingness to allow future divergence. Yes, that coin was completely thrown away in TLJ when it diverged in entirely ridiculous and stupid ways, but if TFA had been followed up by a stronger film, it would have uplifted TFA by proxy. Sort of in the same way that LotR changes the context of The Hobbit when you read them in order, and LotR effectively turns The Hobbit into a more meaningful work (though that doesn't mean much when you film and show them in the wrong order, and stretch the Hobbit three times longer than it needs to be, and now we're going down a different, darker road of conversation). TFA was polarizing. Some people liked it, some people disliked it, some people were ambivalent about it, some people loved it, some people hated it, and some people were unsure about it and wanted to see how TLJ turned out before judging TFA too harshly. And that divide is why it wasn't savaged as badly as TLJ, which pretty much everyone everywhere hated all of the time for multiple reasons. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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