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ParanoidObsessive 04/27/19 2:16:15 AM #194:	WhiskeyDisk posted... The key difference was, that you knew with Rogue One there were going to be no happy endings for anyone involved except R2D2. The stakes were high, but everyone else was a meat popsicle from the get go. Technically we didn't even know that. In RotJ, all we knew was that "many Bothans died" getting the (2nd) plans. In "Star Wars" (screw calling it A New Hope, I'm rebelling against you damned millennials! ~shakes fist~ ), we know that Leia winds up with the plans (somehow), and that she eventually gives them to R2, but we never really know HOW she got the plans in the first place, beyond the fact that they were "beamed to her ship by Rebel spies". Yes, it seems likely that the spies who got them maybe didn't survive that mission, and most people probably went into Rogue One expecting them all to die, but they could easily have had at least some of them survive and escape. People would (and did) bring up the "If they survived why didn't we see them in the other films" logic, but it's not as if we see literally every member of the Rebel Alliance in the first three films anyway. We could just as easily have gotten a scenario where Jyn, Cassian, and the cool robot voiced by nerd royalty Alan Tudyk escape in the end, with Jyn convincing Cassian to leave the Rebellion for her, or Jyn finally accepting her place and joining the Rebellion herself. Then they're off doing their own things in Empire and Jedi, because there are tons of Rebels in dozens of different cells across the galaxy. There's no reason why they'd pop up on Hoth or Endor (even if Wedge seems to be everywhere). So even beyond "We don't know any of these characters", we didn't even know if/how they were going to end. And honestly, while I can easily point out the parts of Rogue One that didn't work, or how I would have done certain parts differently, or how they could have focused more on one aspect and less on another aspect and made a more solid film, at the end of the day I enjoyed the film on a visceral level and didn't feel the NEED to tear it apart like that. But it's hard to say the same for TLJ or Solo. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:921124469] in PotdMon: N... [t:77558720]...</cite> <quote><cite>WhiskeyDisk posted...</cite> <quote>The key difference was, that you knew with Rogue One there were going to be no happy endings for anyone involved except R2D2. The stakes were high, but everyone else was a meat popsicle from the get go.</quote> Technically we didn't even know that. In RotJ, all we knew was that "many Bothans died" getting the (2nd) plans. In "Star Wars" (screw calling it A New Hope, I'm rebelling against you damned millennials! ~shakes fist~ ), we know that Leia winds up with the plans (somehow), and that she eventually gives them to R2, but we never really know HOW she got the plans in the first place, beyond the fact that they were "beamed to her ship by Rebel spies". Yes, it seems likely that the spies who got them maybe didn't survive that mission, and most people probably went into Rogue One expecting them all to die, but they could easily have had at least some of them survive and escape. People would (and did) bring up the "If they survived why didn't we see them in the other films" logic, but it's not as if we see literally every member of the Rebel Alliance in the first three films anyway. We could just as easily have gotten a scenario where Jyn, Cassian, and the cool robot voiced by nerd royalty Alan Tudyk escape in the end, with Jyn convincing Cassian to leave the Rebellion for her, or Jyn finally accepting her place and joining the Rebellion herself. Then they're off doing their own things in Empire and Jedi, because there are tons of Rebels in dozens of different cells across the galaxy. There's no reason why they'd pop up on Hoth or Endor (even if Wedge seems to be everywhere). So even beyond "We don't know any of these characters", we didn't even know if/how they were going to end. And honestly, while I can easily point out the parts of Rogue One that didn't work, or how I would have done certain parts differently, or how they could have focused more on one aspect and less on another aspect and made a more solid film, at the end of the day I enjoyed the film on a visceral level and didn't feel the NEED to tear it apart like that. But it's hard to say the same for TLJ or Solo. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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