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ParanoidObsessive 04/27/19 1:59:07 AM #188:	Entity13 posted... You, however, seem to be remembering wrong. No, I'm remembering right. We're just very much interpreting the same things in different ways. The Prequel Trilogy was bad enough that anyone with standards was willing to fall back on the original trilogy and forsake the prequels... but it wasn't the mere existence of those movies that burned people out, it was the fact that they were terrible. Rejection of the prequels wasn't fatigue-based, it was quality based. When Disney acquired the franchise, a lot of people DID basically say "Oh thank God" and assumed Disney would do a better job. But then Disney didn't do a better job. People didn't lose interest because we had four movies in rapid succession (TFA, RO, TLJ, Solo) with a fifth one coming, they lost interest because TFA felt like a rehash, TLJ was absolutely terrible, and Solo was a story no one wanted told in a way that was as mediocre as possible. RO is literally the only one that people seemed to even remotely enjoy (at least based on my unscientific survey of all the 40-year old men I knew at the time, who seemed to have an almost child-like joy talking about how much they enjoyed it. Like, from their perspective, they finally had something that felt like Star Wars again). And then TLJ shit directly into their open mouths. The fact that there are now 11 Star Wars movies is immaterial. If they were all the same level of quality as the originals, or even Rogue One, interest and engagement in the films would be far higher. In the same vein that Marvel can put out 20 straight films and people are more hyped for the 21st movie than they were for almost anything prior. If Star Wars as a franchise had kept its original release pace - and we were up to Episode XV at this point - but every one of those films was on par with Empire in quality (or getting successively better over time), Lucas would literally rule the world because he would control our entire economy. Quantity really doesn't matter if quality remains consistent. Even with TV shows, it's the dip in quantity that eventually kills long-running series (except for the Simpsons, which literally cannot be killed in spite of losing most of its quality before half the people on PotD were born). Entity13 posted... Meanwhile, Rogue One--which definitely WAS a movie no one asked for--came out and polarized audiences in terms of good or bad. I'm inclined to say that it didn't polarize audiences. The only real strong negative reaction I saw to it at the time came from critics, and critics are generally terrible people with terrible opinions who need to be beaten with sticks. Rogue One was a movie no one asked for, and that no one had ever really thought they wanted before it was announced, but it was an interesting enough premise that most people were willing to give it a chance - and it wound up being better than most other Star Wars movies before or since other than the originals (though that is admittedly a low bar to hurdle). It made a lot of us care when we had no reason to. Meanwhile, the sequels have to stunt-cast Han, Leia, and Luke in a desperate attempt to win us over, because we barely care about anyone else (other than maybe Poe - who we weren't supposed to care about). As opposed to... --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:921124088] in PotdMon: N... [t:77558720]...</cite> <quote><cite>Entity13 posted...</cite> <quote>You, however, seem to be remembering wrong.</quote> No, I'm remembering right. We're just very much interpreting the same things in different ways. The Prequel Trilogy was bad enough that anyone with standards was willing to fall back on the original trilogy and forsake the prequels... but it wasn't the mere existence of those movies that burned people out, it was the fact that they were terrible. Rejection of the prequels wasn't fatigue-based, it was quality based. When Disney acquired the franchise, a lot of people DID basically say "Oh thank God" and assumed Disney would do a better job. But then Disney didn't do a better job. People didn't lose interest because we had four movies in rapid succession (TFA, RO, TLJ, Solo) with a fifth one coming, they lost interest because TFA felt like a rehash, TLJ was absolutely terrible, and Solo was a story no one wanted told in a way that was as mediocre as possible. RO is literally the only one that people seemed to even remotely enjoy (at least based on my unscientific survey of all the 40-year old men I knew at the time, who seemed to have an almost child-like joy talking about how much they enjoyed it. Like, from their perspective, they finally had something that felt like Star Wars again). And then TLJ shit directly into their open mouths. The fact that there are now 11 Star Wars movies is immaterial. If they were all the same level of quality as the originals, or even Rogue One, interest and engagement in the films would be far higher. In the same vein that Marvel can put out 20 straight films and people are more hyped for the 21st movie than they were for almost anything prior. If Star Wars as a franchise had kept its original release pace - and we were up to Episode XV at this point - but every one of those films was on par with Empire in quality (or getting successively better over time), Lucas would literally rule the world because he would control our entire economy. Quantity really doesn't matter if quality remains consistent. Even with TV shows, it's the dip in quantity that eventually kills long-running series (except for the Simpsons, which literally cannot be killed in spite of losing most of its quality before half the people on PotD were born). <cite>Entity13 posted...</cite> <quote>Meanwhile, Rogue One--which definitely WAS a movie no one asked for--came out and polarized audiences in terms of good or bad.</quote> I'm inclined to say that it didn't polarize audiences. The only real strong negative reaction I saw to it at the time came from critics, and critics are generally terrible people with terrible opinions who need to be beaten with sticks. Rogue One was a movie no one asked for, and that no one had ever really thought they wanted before it was announced, but it was an interesting enough premise that most people were willing to give it a chance - and it wound up being better than most other Star Wars movies before or since other than the originals (though that is admittedly a low bar to hurdle). It made a lot of us care when we had no reason to. Meanwhile, the sequels have to stunt-cast Han, Leia, and Luke in a desperate attempt to win us over, because we barely care about anyone else (other than maybe Poe - who we weren't supposed to care about). As opposed to... --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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