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Topic	Tsunami does blind playthroughs of VNs--Grand Revival [spoilers] [ztd] [aa6]
TsunamiXXVIII 02/03/19 7:12:43 PM #34:	Neither star nor moon have appeared on the opposite side yet, so I can't figure which is larger. I try human, and much to my surprise, it defeats sun. So right now, we're at birdman > flower > moon, star, and human > sun > wind (which is zero). But if the opponent never plays anything other than birdman, flower, or sun, we need to use the cards with multiple symbols to figure it out. Flower > Two Moons Two Moons + Human > Birdman Okay, that's probably helpful. Assuming they're all integers, Human has to be at least 3. Of course, we already knew it was at least two because of Sun being, presumably, 1. Birdman > Moon + Human Birdman > Three Moons Beautiful. So Human > Moon, by enough that Birdman fits between them. Since moon has ti be at least 2, human is at least 4 and birdman at least 7. And Birdman > Moon + Star > Flower (finally; I just could not get flower to appear) so Star > Moon as well since Flower > Two Moons. Let's summarize. Two Moons + Human > Birdman > Moon + Star > Flower > Two Moons, also Birdman > Moon + Human. I opt to keep playing Moon + Human until I find out how it fares against Flower. It loses. Good, so now we have the full inequality. Birdman > Flower > Star > Human > Moon > Sun > Wind. But Moon is still big enough that Two Moons + Human > Birdman > Moon + Star > Flower > Moon + Human. So Moon is at least 4... but Birdman was greater than Three Moons, so it has to be at least 13. Thus, the smallest integers that work are Moon = 4, Human = 6, Star = 8, Flower = 11, Birdman = 13. I feel like there's got to be some better way of pinpointing these numbers... but I'm already away from the game now, so this is all I can do for now! Though obviously, my next course of action ought to be to play Three Moons until it goes against Flower. Based on those numbers I threw out, Three Moons would win. If Flower wins, it means that Flower is at least 13, Sun is at least 10, Birdman is at least 15, and Human is at least...8? Yeah, 8. Oof, this is tough. I half expected all of the symbols to stand in for digits, but I've pretty much proven that only one out of 1, 2, or 3 corresponds to a number. At least I think that's what I've proven. It would really help if there were more options for the opponent than the two largest and the second-smallest. Though even if I can't get the exact values, I can almost get the order of all thirteen cards. Remember, the smallest possible number for Moon was 4, and in both cases, something else was going to correspond to 8. --- Also known as Cyberchao X. <cite>TsunamiXXVIII posted [p:916875345] in Tsunami do... [t:77420098]...</cite> <quote>Neither star nor moon have appeared on the opposite side yet, so I can't figure which is larger. I try human, and much to my surprise, it defeats sun. So right now, we're at birdman > flower > moon, star, and human > sun > wind (which is zero). But if the opponent never plays anything other than birdman, flower, or sun, we need to use the cards with multiple symbols to figure it out. Flower > Two Moons Two Moons + Human > Birdman Okay, that's probably helpful. Assuming they're all integers, Human has to be at least 3. Of course, we already knew it was at least two because of Sun being, presumably, 1. Birdman > Moon + Human Birdman > Three Moons Beautiful. So Human > Moon, by enough that Birdman fits between them. Since moon has ti be at least 2, human is at least 4 and birdman at least 7. And Birdman > Moon + Star > Flower (finally; I just could not get flower to appear) so Star > Moon as well since Flower > Two Moons. Let's summarize. Two Moons + Human > Birdman > Moon + Star > Flower > Two Moons, also Birdman > Moon + Human. I opt to keep playing Moon + Human until I find out how it fares against Flower. It loses. Good, so now we have the full inequality. Birdman > Flower > Star > Human > Moon > Sun > Wind. But Moon is still big enough that Two Moons + Human > Birdman > Moon + Star > Flower > Moon + Human. So Moon is at least 4... but Birdman was greater than Three Moons, so it has to be at least 13. Thus, the smallest integers that work are Moon = 4, Human = 6, Star = 8, Flower = 11, Birdman = 13. I feel like there's got to be some better way of pinpointing these numbers... but I'm already away from the game now, so this is all I can do for now! Though obviously, my next course of action ought to be to play Three Moons until it goes against Flower. Based on those numbers I threw out, Three Moons would win. If Flower wins, it means that Flower is at least 13, Sun is at least 10, Birdman is at least 15, and Human is at least...8? Yeah, 8. Oof, this is tough. I half expected all of the symbols to stand in for digits, but I've pretty much proven that only one out of 1, 2, or 3 corresponds to a number. At least I think that's what I've proven. It would really help if there were more options for the opponent than the two largest and the second-smallest. Though even if I can't get the exact values, I can almost get the order of all thirteen cards. Remember, the smallest possible number for Moon was 4, and in both cases, something else was going to correspond to 8. --- Also known as Cyberchao X.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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