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darkknight109 posted...

Fair point. Only one problem with it: Donald Trump isn't a non-native and despite his at-times torturous prose, English is his first language.

Yeah, if someone who can barely string a sentence together uses a racial slur because they're repeating something they heard in a song somewhere or something like that, that's understandable and eminently forgivable. But that's not what Trump was doing - he knew exactly what the connotations of that word, and that particular use of that word, were. We know that he knew it, because *people fucking pointed it out to him*. And then he used it again directly in response to them.

To tie it back to your analogy, if that barely-speaks-English foreigner says a racial slur that he didn't realize was offensive, you can chalk that up to simple ignorance. But if you explain to them that it's offensive, and explain *why* people don't use that word in polite company, and they continue to use it anyways they've lost that "I just didn't know any better" defence.

...because both sides of the analogy were deliberately extreme, since the n-word is a recognized universal taboo going back at least 70 years whereas the term "animal", which has a less strong connotation, only started to really develop its mainstream negative connection about 30 years ago (which, not for nothing, was right around the time that political figures were brazenly describing black youths as super predators, which is some shit that violates mores going back to around the turn of the century)

darkknight109 posted...

So explain it. Elaborate and actually back up your argument. That's what I've been prompting you to do from my first post in this topic.

I literally already did.

darkknight109 posted...

*citation needed*

Try leaving your home at some point and talking to them. Anybody who has seen PC change numerous times in their life isn't going to be square on everything. Even baby boomers (which includes a subsect younger than Trump, Hillary, etc) are still using terms like "orientals" which has since become an emerging taboo going back to... probably at least the 90s, if not before that. And before you argue that "oriental" is an overblown non-issue that nobody actually cares about, keep in mind that Obama signed a law banning the use of the word in government documents because he viewed it as offensive.
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