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LinkPizza posted...

Zeus posted...

I think he's a 70 year-old man who lived through many iterations of political correctness so he's likely to misstep by accident as he is to not give a fuck. I have to ask if you feel that the elderly -- who grew up in a vastly different era -- should be held to the same political correctness standard as kids who grew up in an age when implications are readily understood? I'm as anti-PC as they come, but even I recognize that referring to people as animals has strong racist connotations and don't use it. Likewise, if somebody in their 90s says "colored" instead of "black" I'm going to react differently than if somebody in their 20s refers to somebody as "colored" instead of "black".

He may have grown up in different times, but he probably should watch what he says when hes in a position such as the one hes in. Hes not just someones old grandpa who people can ignore. Hes in a position of power. Just because he grew up in a time where stuff like that was normal and ok doesnt mean it is now. And I would definitely hold him to the same standards. Doesnt matter what your age in is his position.

lolwut? PC word choice is an irrelevant matter in general and you can't reasonably expect somebody who didn't grow up with nonsense verbiage to be able to properly parrot that nonsense verbiage.

IronicFool posted...

Zeus posted...

Are you one of those people who thinks people proposed things that they didn't and then gets confused when you're called out on doing that?

Nope! But you assumed that I assumed you were proposing something in your post. Instead, go back and read it as someone responding to what you said, directed at the person they were already talking to, and not directed back at you.

I wasn't saying you proposed anything, I was tying what you said back into the post that did propose something. This would be like if two people were arguing, you came up and made a comment tangentially related to that argument, one person said something in response to your comment meant to disparage the other side, and you were confused about why they were saying that, in spite of hearing the whole conversation and having the benefit of context. I mean, you didn't propose anything, someone else did, I made a direct reference to that proposition, and you still think I was accusing you of proposing something and wasn't still making fun of the other poster?

@IronicFool O rly? Then why did you literally use the words "you propose"?

IronicFool posted...

Well, if you propose that most people are stupid to explain why the president has a 45% approval rating,

If you aren't claiming that I proposed something, why say "you propose"?

darkknight109 posted...

Interesting non-answer. It's a really simple question: do you think he was being racist? Yes or no? "Yes, but..." or "No, but..." are also acceptable answers, but just saying "He's 70 years old" is a mealy-mouthed dodge.

Once again we come to the issue of whenever you get anything other than the black/white response you want, you pretend that it's not an answer. The context around certain words has changed tremendously over the decades so there's a far greater implication when younger people use them *because* those younger people grew up exclusively in an age where said words had a different connotation.

darkknight109 posted...

And to answer your own question, yes, I think people should be held to the same standard, regardless of their age.

Then you have some issues.
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