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Topic`````` Nominate SHEIK for CB11! #DownB
HaRRicH
12/29/18 3:16:32 AM
#91:


Kenri posted...
HaRRicH posted...
Sheik is more separated from Zelda than any of those Links are to Link.

I mean, aside from the fact that the different Links are actually legit different characters, while Sheik is Zelda in disguise. <_<

Ultimate kinda addresses that though by very clearly picking two different Zeldas to represent Sheik and Zelda.


First of all, thank you for reminding me of the different LoZ-games being represented by Sheik and Zelda in Ultimate.

As for your other point, fine job catching me get too loose with my words there. You're right that it was a disguise in LoZ:OoT.

A lot of my argument goes back to these points about comparing Siegfried/Nightmare and Zelda/Sheik, so here's an opinion on the Links regarding them and Smash.

1) Nightmare is a form of Siegfried = Sheik is a form of Zelda. <-- Each Link is a different person -- I forget if it is family lineage or just some heroic power that ties them together in the LoZ-series, but Link/YL/TL are not the same person

2) Nightmare was once considered to be Siegfried, but they entirely separated in Soul Calibur 3 = Sheik was once considered to be Zelda, but they entirely separated in SSB4. <-- Link, Young Link, and Toon Link were never considered to be precisely the same character in Smash.

3) Nightmare's play-style is significantly different from Siegfried's = Sheik's play-style is significantly different from Zelda's. --> all three characters play similarly.

4) Nightmare's appearance is not immediately similar to Siegfried = Sheik's appearance is not immediately similar to Zelda --> all three Links appear similar with stylistic differences.

5) Nightmare's name and identity are not immediately similar to Siegfried = Sheik's name and identity are not immediately similar to Zelda --> Link, Young Link, and Toon Link have similar names.

Young Link or Toon Link in addition to Link would break the spirit of what we're dealing with here. LoZ has weird continuity with its characters so they may be recognized as separate characters, but the points above remind us how similar they are in Smash and that's before considering how similar they are in LoZ. Wolf Link and Fierce Diety Link are basically power-ups to existing Links in my mind -- nobody wants Fire Mario and Cape Mario.

With recognition that Sheik is a disguise for Zelda in LoZ:OoT, Smash still separates Sheik from Zelda more overall than these Links do from Link.

If somebody wants to rally one of these Links over Link though, good luck...!
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