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Topic	All-Purpose Wrestling Topic 463: Better Viewership Than Raw
PrivateBiscuit1 12/13/18 10:48:27 AM #221:	TheRock1525 posted... PrivateBiscuit1 posted... Like, out of most of those heel or face turns, when did they ever get a big reaction? Almost all of them? Did Elias not get a huge reaction for blasting Corbin? Did Bobby Lashley not get booed to high heaven for his post-match beatdown of Owen's? Did Charlotte not get a massive reaction to beating down Ronda? Etc. But I think the most telling thing is that you can't simply disagree with me, its simply I'm just the dumbest person ever. This is the level of hostility that writers and performers are pushing back against. It can't be simply "hey can we get better payoffs and storylines, the talent is there and we see examples within the company." Nope, its "YOURE DUMB AND STUPID AND YOU ACTIVELY HATE THE FANS." Then you act confused when you get push back from them and Daniel Bryan is calling you out on it but he ain't getting the Becky Lynch "but we'll still cheer you" treatment. Admittedly I haven't seen the instances you spoke of, but I was referring more to the ones like Braun turning face the first time which I recall did not get as big of a reaction as it could have gotten had they built it up proper. Same with New Day face turn and Usos face turn, among others. They do these things sometimes with no real reaction. I can absolutely disagree with you. But when you try to tell me things like "They gave Rusev his spot! They gave you what you wanted! When you cheered for four months straight for Rusev Day, we gave you his uninspired heel run, refusing to let you have him face, and they we gave him a meaningless title shot with barely any build up and kept him heel! And then we finally turned him face after you guys gave up and split up his act entirely and stopped giving you a reason to chant for Rusev Day in another really bad storyline! This is exactly what you wanted and you still complain!" And then telling people that everyone that people wanted to be pushed were in the right spot because WWE didn't push them when they were at their most popular, so therefore it's right. Steiner made a good post that blew that idea up, so read it again if you don't get how dumb that is. And you tried to even tell me my opinion doesn't matter because I don't watch NXT which I still don't understand at all. Like, you aren't making all stupid points, but you're making some really dumb ones, but acting like you shouldn't be called out for the bad ones. TheRock1525 posted... "Why would they do a stupid Drake Maverick pisses himself spot?" fans chant "A-O-P-P" the next night Okay. Literally the same company that showed an entire montage of people doing that Fandangoing, including at freaking sports events, and talking about how cool it is, and then having Fandango come out and tell the crowd how stupid they are for doing that and that they shouldn't do it at all. And so people stopped doing what was super popular. Vince found AOPP funny, and it went on and on, but did you notice AOPP wasn't chanted after that? And that the segments became death? This company does not care what is popular. They care if Vince is entertained by it. Nothing more. --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV! <cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted [p:914053872] in All-Purpos... [t:77285864]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PrivateBiscuit1 posted...</cite> <quote>Like, out of most of those heel or face turns, when did they ever get a big reaction?</quote> Almost all of them? Did Elias not get a huge reaction for blasting Corbin? Did Bobby Lashley not get booed to high heaven for his post-match beatdown of Owen's? Did Charlotte not get a massive reaction to beating down Ronda? Etc. But I think the most telling thing is that you can't simply disagree with me, its simply I'm just the dumbest person ever. This is the level of hostility that writers and performers are pushing back against. It can't be simply "hey can we get better payoffs and storylines, the talent is there and we see examples within the company." Nope, its "YOURE DUMB AND STUPID AND YOU ACTIVELY HATE THE FANS." Then you act confused when you get push back from them and Daniel Bryan is calling you out on it but he ain't getting the Becky Lynch "but we'll still cheer you" treatment.</quote> Admittedly I haven't seen the instances you spoke of, but I was referring more to the ones like Braun turning face the first time which I recall did not get as big of a reaction as it could have gotten had they built it up proper. Same with New Day face turn and Usos face turn, among others. They do these things sometimes with no real reaction. I can absolutely disagree with you. But when you try to tell me things like "They gave Rusev his spot! They gave you what you wanted! When you cheered for four months straight for Rusev Day, we gave you his uninspired heel run, refusing to let you have him face, and they we gave him a meaningless title shot with barely any build up and kept him heel! And then we finally turned him face after you guys gave up and split up his act entirely and stopped giving you a reason to chant for Rusev Day in another really bad storyline! This is exactly what you wanted and you still complain!" And then telling people that everyone that people wanted to be pushed were in the right spot because WWE didn't push them when they were at their most popular, so therefore it's right. Steiner made a good post that blew that idea up, so read it again if you don't get how dumb that is. And you tried to even tell me my opinion doesn't matter because I don't watch NXT which I still don't understand at all. Like, you aren't making all stupid points, but you're making some really dumb ones, but acting like you shouldn't be called out for the bad ones. <cite>TheRock1525 posted...</cite> <quote>"Why would they do a stupid Drake Maverick pisses himself spot?" fans chant "A-O-P-P" the next night Okay.</quote> Literally the same company that showed an entire montage of people doing that Fandangoing, including at freaking sports events, and talking about how cool it is, and then having Fandango come out and tell the crowd how stupid they are for doing that and that they shouldn't do it at all. And so people stopped doing what was super popular. Vince found AOPP funny, and it went on and on, but did you notice AOPP wasn't chanted after that? And that the segments became death? This company does not care what is popular. They care if Vince is entertained by it. Nothing more. --- Check out my entertainment blog!: www.heroicbiz.com I discuss video games, comics, movies, and TV!</quote> ... 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