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| Topic | What particular statements by Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson make them alt righ |
| darkphoenix181 12/05/18 10:43:40 PM #31: | Godnorgosh posted... But debate has almost nothing to do with who is right and almost everything to do with persuasion and the way in which you present your case, which is why it's traditionally been the domain of sophists and rhetoricians. Debate is about persuading people you are right. Because you don't usually debate indisputable facts since they are...you know indisputable. By saying "debate has almost nothing to do with who is right" you are saying you already have been persuaded to a side in the debate and don't care that the guy arguing for your perspective cannot counter the points thrown at him. That is ultimately what debate is about. You take a premise and you take it to test. If a guy is unskilled, sure he will likely fail to defend the premise. However, if a skilled champion fails to defend the premise, perhaps the premise indeed is not right. And yet if a person sees the premise being weak and easily shaken and they themselves can't counter the points but STILL thinks that premise is right...well that is not logical. --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard! |
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