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ParanoidObsessive 12/04/18 4:16:37 AM #109:	Zeus posted... The 2099-verse was still awesome, though. And at least Doom had a good run there, unlike his treatment in Ultimates. SOME of the 2099 universe was awesome. Some... was not. I still have all of the number 1 issues somewhere. Ravage 2099 was kind of crap, and mostly just sold on virtue of being the latest character Stan Lee had created (at the time). And Punisher 2099 was so terrible it sort of came out the other side into being brilliant. Which is why it sort of became memetic in online comic fan circles. http://static2.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Punisher-2099-interior-art.jpg Doom 2099 was an interesting concept, but I don't think it ever really lived up to its potential. mooreandrew58 posted... But like some have said with marvel the DC American government is shown to be quite corrupt/shady so it fits. Ehh, the DC government is rarely all that evil or corrupt, with the minor exceptions of the parts that sponsor stuff like Checkmate or the Suicide Squad. Marvel's the one where pretty much every branch, department, and secret division is corrupt as hell and probably doing experiments on people or running black ops assassination programs. In a way, it reflects the nature of the citizens in both universes (something that has actually been brought up in cross-company crossovers). The average human on DC Earth tends to be somewhat idealistic, optimistic, and trusting of most heroes (and willing to give reformed villains a chance to prove themselves), whereas in Marvel the average citizen is a cynical bastard, distrusts everything and everyone, tends towards pessimism, is jaded as fuck about super-hero property damage, and assumes that 90% of heroes are probably secretly bad (doubly so if you're a mutant or Spider-Man). Or to paraphrase TV Tropes, in the DC universe "Rousseau Was Right", but in Marvel Rousseau was very, very wrong. Entity13 posted... So, with the second Captain Marvel trailer out now, and the Avengers 4 trailer supposing to be out Wednesday, I am recognizing that now would be the time to start avoiding the internet if you gave a damn about spoilers. I think the best time to start avoiding spoilers would have been in the 1970s. I can probably tell you 90% of the plot of the movie right now, based on knowing Ms. Marvel as a character and knowing who the alien races involved are. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:913513435] in Stan By Ge... [t:77228690]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>The 2099-verse was still awesome, though. And at least Doom had a good run there, unlike his treatment in Ultimates.</quote> SOME of the 2099 universe was awesome. Some... was not. I still have all of the number 1 issues somewhere. Ravage 2099 was kind of crap, and mostly just sold on virtue of being the latest character Stan Lee had created (at the time). And Punisher 2099 was so terrible it sort of came out the other side into being brilliant. Which is why it sort of became memetic in online comic fan circles. http://static2.cbrimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Punisher-2099-interior-art.jpg Doom 2099 was an interesting concept, but I don't think it ever really lived up to its potential. <cite>mooreandrew58 posted...</cite> <quote>But like some have said with marvel the DC American government is shown to be quite corrupt/shady so it fits.</quote> Ehh, the DC government is rarely all that evil or corrupt, with the minor exceptions of the parts that sponsor stuff like Checkmate or the Suicide Squad. Marvel's the one where pretty much every branch, department, and secret division is corrupt as hell and probably doing experiments on people or running black ops assassination programs. In a way, it reflects the nature of the citizens in both universes (something that has actually been brought up in cross-company crossovers). The average human on DC Earth tends to be somewhat idealistic, optimistic, and trusting of most heroes (and willing to give reformed villains a chance to prove themselves), whereas in Marvel the average citizen is a cynical bastard, distrusts everything and everyone, tends towards pessimism, is jaded as fuck about super-hero property damage, and assumes that 90% of heroes are probably secretly bad (doubly so if you're a mutant or Spider-Man). Or to paraphrase TV Tropes, in the DC universe "Rousseau Was Right", but in Marvel Rousseau was very, very wrong. <cite>Entity13 posted...</cite> <quote>So, with the second Captain Marvel trailer out now, and the Avengers 4 trailer supposing to be out Wednesday, I am recognizing that now would be the time to start avoiding the internet if you gave a damn about spoilers.</quote> I think the best time to start avoiding spoilers would have been in the 1970s. I can probably tell you 90% of the plot of the movie right now, based on knowing Ms. Marvel as a character and knowing who the alien races involved are. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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