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12/03/18 12:52:57 AM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
I'm not saying Wolverine is a saint or anything, but as a mutant he can afford to practically ignore most mooks as he goes. I'm sure Logan's.kills are disproportionately worse and more powerful mutants as a matter of necessity.

Ironically, most of Wolverine's actual kills in the early comics (as opposed to later retcons and flashbacks) were completely ordinary humans.

The first kill ever was off-panel, and he basically ganked a total mook (while Storm and Nightcrawler were both literally right next to him, and fully capable of taking the dude down themselves).

The second major "Holy shit, this dude kills people!" moment came when he straight up stabbed three random human mooks working for the Hellfire Club to death. At least until Jim Shooter got pissy about Wolverine killing people and had them reveal later that no, they were all perfectly healthy and okay with cyborg parts now. And he murdered the absolute FUCK out of a ton of Japanese criminals and crime bosses when he was in Japan and Madripoor, when he was basically in his "I AM A MODERN SAMURAI" mode.

I think the first time he really used killing force on a powerful mutant or superbeing solely because they WERE powerful was when he stabbed Rachel Summers (his friend and teammate at the time) in the gut with zero forewarning because he disagreed with her stance that they should kill Selene (the Black Queen of the Hellfire Club at the time) because, in his own words, she had the power of the Phoenix, so had to do everything in her power to stay on the straight and narrow so she wouldn't go crazy the way Jean Grey did. And she's actually called him out on the hypocrisy of it a couple times since then.



WhiskeyDisk posted...
Castle on the other hand as a more or less vanilla human with training has to put two in the chest and one in the head of literally every low level thug that stands in his way because he can't afford to get shot the way Logan can and continue to function.

There WAS a period where he actually used "mercy bullets" that incapacitated people, and didn't straight-up kill them. And he's in a universe were it would be pathetically easy for him to acquire tech that can subdue or stun rather than kill. Hell, he could probably straight up ask Spider-Man to use his connections to get someone like Tony Stark or Reed Richards to build him stuff like that if he was interested in taking prisoners.

Frank doesn't kill because he needs to kill. He kills because he wants to kill. Because, much like with Batman, every single criminal he deals with is just revenge for the one crime he couldn't prevent. He's basically a broken man who can't cope with his grief venting his frustrations against the world - and the only reason he isn't the subject of a massive manhunt is because there are just enough police and officials (and citizens) in the incredibly corrupt Marvel universe who agree with his methods that no one really goes looking for him as long as he just sticks to killing street criminals.


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