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ParanoidObsessive 12/01/18 9:24:43 PM #90:	CyborgSage00x0 posted... The funny thing is, there's no guarantee that DD goes to Disney+, either. It could be related to the issues of rights, depending on how long the Marvel and Netflix deal was. As for the Netflix series itself, I kind of assume it isn't going to go to Disney. I assume the rights issues are such that Netflix gets to keep the episodes already produced but loses the right to make more (at best), and at worst both sides get pissy about it and it gets yanked off every service and dropped entirely into limbo (at worst). I assume Marvel/Disney is just cancelling the shows so they can clear the board and start making their own productions using those characters. Because the preference is always to maximize potential profit rather than being force to share with someone else. As Jim Sterling is fond of saying, they don't want to make some of the money unless they can make all of the money. CyborgSage00x0 posted... Even stranger, they said that Daredevil (as in, at least the characters) would be returning in some form for a "new adventure" which means....they want to keep using the characters, but not in the current Daredevil show format they made? Honestly, I hear that more as a "Hey, Daredevil will be back eventually, once Disney makes its own show somewhere else!" than I hear it as "Hey, Netflix is going to try to do some sort of future project". Which makes perfect sense. Disney/Marvel is going to want to capitalize on the success of these shows and the current popularity of the characters, so it's almost inevitable that they're going to push Daredevil and Jessica Jones shows into production at some point for their own service - unless they're willing to go all-in and make a Heroes for Hire movie as part of the MCU or something. Again, I see cancelling the Netflix shows as clearly the table so they'll be able to do their own version (with a new cast... who are willing to work for less money, most likely). I also think they'll tank hard, because it's really difficult to catch that sort of lightning in a bottle twice, and that they've basically fucked themselves by being too greedy, but they probably view this entire mess as small potatoes at this point anyway. CyborgSage00x0 posted... Korruptor posted... Hasn't Disney just acquired Hulu from buying the majority of Fox? Yes, which I had thought would mean they would just use Hulu to host Disney stuff. Evidently not. Disney gained controlling interest, but not 100% control. Which takes us back to "They don't want to make some of the money unless they can make all of the money." If anything, I half-expect to see them use that controlling interest to shut Hulu down entirely (or transition it into an entirely different type of service) if they think they can make Disney+ a success and transfer all of their properties and subscribers over from one to the other. But they might be willing to keep Hulu going as-is as a contingency if Disney+ tanks and they need an alternative to crawling their way back to Netflix. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family <cite>ParanoidObsessive posted [p:913383399] in Stan By Ge... [t:77228690]...</cite> <quote><cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>The funny thing is, there's no guarantee that DD goes to Disney+, either. It could be related to the issues of rights, depending on how long the Marvel and Netflix deal was.</quote> As for the Netflix series itself, I kind of assume it isn't going to go to Disney. I assume the rights issues are such that Netflix gets to keep the episodes already produced but loses the right to make more (at best), and at worst both sides get pissy about it and it gets yanked off every service and dropped entirely into limbo (at worst). I assume Marvel/Disney is just cancelling the shows so they can clear the board and start making their own productions using those characters. Because the preference is always to maximize potential profit rather than being force to share with someone else. As Jim Sterling is fond of saying, they don't want to make some of the money unless they can make all of the money. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote>Even stranger, they said that Daredevil (as in, at least the characters) would be returning in some form for a "new adventure" which means....they want to keep using the characters, but not in the current Daredevil show format they made?</quote> Honestly, I hear that more as a "Hey, Daredevil will be back eventually, once Disney makes its own show somewhere else!" than I hear it as "Hey, Netflix is going to try to do some sort of future project". Which makes perfect sense. Disney/Marvel is going to want to capitalize on the success of these shows and the current popularity of the characters, so it's almost inevitable that they're going to push Daredevil and Jessica Jones shows into production at some point for their own service - unless they're willing to go all-in and make a Heroes for Hire movie as part of the MCU or something. Again, I see cancelling the Netflix shows as clearly the table so they'll be able to do their own version (with a new cast... who are willing to work for less money, most likely). I also think they'll tank hard, because it's really difficult to catch that sort of lightning in a bottle twice, and that they've basically fucked themselves by being too greedy, but they probably view this entire mess as small potatoes at this point anyway. <cite>CyborgSage00x0 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Korruptor posted...</cite> <quote>Hasn't Disney just acquired Hulu from buying the majority of Fox?</quote> Yes, which I had thought would mean they would just use Hulu to host Disney stuff. Evidently not.</quote> Disney gained controlling interest, but not 100% control. Which takes us back to "They don't want to make some of the money unless they can make all of the money." If anything, I half-expect to see them use that controlling interest to shut Hulu down entirely (or transition it into an entirely different type of service) if they think they can make Disney+ a success and transfer all of their properties and subscribers over from one to the other. But they might be willing to keep Hulu going as-is as a contingency if Disney+ tanks and they need an alternative to crawling their way back to Netflix. --- "Wall of Text'D!" --- oldskoolplayr76 "POwned again." --- blight family</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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