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Topic	Guns are not the problem, Gun culture is..
darkknight109 11/07/18 12:29:35 AM #22:	DPsx7 posted... From anywhere. A home, a store, other criminals. There's a whole black market for this stuff. All of which gun control would cut down on. DPsx7 posted... Stupid people can still access the internet. 3D printers are a thing too. Furthermore, they aren't homeless folk. Occasionally that employment is the reason they go berserk. The vast majority of gun crime is not some guy going postal and shooting up his office, it's your average, everyday fuckups making bad decisions with their lives. DPsx7 posted... You're kidding right? Anything explosive can do a lot more harm. Poison is hard to detect. How many explosive attacks have you seen in countries with strict gun control? How many poisonings? Not as many as America has gun deaths, I can tell you that straight-up. "Oh, it's not the guns, us Americans are just horribly violent," you might protest. But the numbers don't bear out that conclusion either - America's violent crime rate, while on the high side, are still pretty comparable to most of her first-world peers; it is only the murder rate that is leagues above everyone else. DPsx7 posted... The point being if you have some nutjob determined enough to do something then wasting money on 'gun control' isn't going to prevent anything. But how many nutjobs are really that determined? Not many. You're looking at the mass shooters and the high profile killers and thinking they're the problem - those people make up a significant minority of those using guns to kill people. Again, the statistics do not back up the idea that gun control is a waste of money. In the overwhelming majority of jurisdictions - within the US and without - where stricter gun control has been implemented, gun crime has gone down. DPsx7 posted... Nothing will eliminate it and we already have controls in place. Honestly? No, you don't. If you think what America has in any way constitutes gun control, you need to get out more. The rights afforded to gun owners in even the most restrictive parts of the US are far beyond what most other countries afford their citizens in their most gun-friendly areas. DPsx7 posted... We need to solve the underlying problems that encourage this behavior. And your suggestions for doing that are...? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:911959496] in Guns are n... [t:77177400]...</cite> <quote><cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>From anywhere. A home, a store, other criminals. There's a whole black market for this stuff.</quote> All of which gun control would cut down on. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Stupid people can still access the internet. 3D printers are a thing too. Furthermore, they aren't homeless folk. Occasionally that employment is the reason they go berserk. </quote> The vast majority of gun crime is not some guy going postal and shooting up his office, it's your average, everyday fuckups making bad decisions with their lives. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>You're kidding right? Anything explosive can do a lot more harm. Poison is hard to detect. </quote> How many explosive attacks have you seen in countries with strict gun control? How many poisonings? Not as many as America has gun deaths, I can tell you that straight-up. "Oh, it's not the guns, us Americans are just horribly violent," you might protest. But the numbers don't bear out that conclusion either - America's violent crime rate, while on the high side, are still pretty comparable to most of her first-world peers; it is only the murder rate that is leagues above everyone else. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>The point being if you have some nutjob determined enough to do something then wasting money on 'gun control' isn't going to prevent anything. </quote> But how many nutjobs are really that determined? Not many. You're looking at the mass shooters and the high profile killers and thinking they're the problem - those people make up a significant minority of those using guns to kill people. Again, the statistics do not back up the idea that gun control is a waste of money. In the overwhelming majority of jurisdictions - within the US and without - where stricter gun control has been implemented, gun crime has gone down. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>Nothing will eliminate it and we already have controls in place. </quote> Honestly? No, you don't. If you think what America has in any way constitutes gun control, you need to get out more. The rights afforded to gun owners in even the most restrictive parts of the US are far beyond what most other countries afford their citizens in their most gun-friendly areas. <cite>DPsx7 posted...</cite> <quote>We need to solve the underlying problems that encourage this behavior.</quote> And your suggestions for doing that are...? --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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