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darkknight109 posted...

DPsx7 posted...

Pretty much this. Gun control will not have any positive effect. The people it seeks to thwart will just find alternative methods, either they steal it, make it, or choose a different weapon altogether.

Steal it from where? Is there a magical gun factory that secretly supplies criminals?

Make it? I think you're vastly overestimating the intellectual capacity of your average criminal. Most people who have the skills necessary to fabricate a gun can easily find gainful employment and, thus, are unlikely to turn to crime to make ends meet.

Choose a different weapon? Yes, this is certainly possible. It's also an improvement, because alternate weapons are not as reliably deadly and are far easier to counteract than a gun.

Here's the thing - your argument hinges on a nirvana fallacy: gun control will never completely eliminate gun crime, so we shouldn't even bother trying. But that's not the end goal here - the goal is to reduce gun crime, and the numbers there are pretty much unarguable: virtually all countries and states that have implemented stricter gun laws saw their gun violence rates decrease, sometimes by staggering amounts.

Yes, there will always be some insurrectionist-wannabe with a lathe in his garage that can homebrew up a pistol or an alcoholic husband who decides to use a knife to kill his wife instead of a pistol. But for every one of those, there is another clueless schmuck that wanted to buy a glock just so he could rob a gas station, but couldn't find one because the controls worked. That's the end goal here.

From anywhere. A home, a store, other criminals. There's a whole black market for this stuff.

Stupid people can still access the internet. 3D printers are a thing too. Furthermore, they aren't homeless folk. Occasionally that employment is the reason they go berserk.

You're kidding right? Anything explosive can do a lot more harm. Poison is hard to detect. The point being if you have some nutjob determined enough to do something then wasting money on 'gun control' isn't going to prevent anything.

Nothing will eliminate it and we already have controls in place. What's the sense in wasting money that could be put to better use? Begging for more restrictions is trying to put a band aid on a broken leg. We need to solve the underlying problems that encourage this behavior. Anything else is pointless. Half assed effort from people without better ideas.
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