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Topic	Research Finds Half of Last Jedi Hate Aimed at Director Rian Johnson Came From P
darkknight109 10/03/18 3:43:06 AM #65:	Unbridled9 posted... The reason they all got exploded wasn't because of Poe's actions Dude, the only reason they were there at all was because Poe told them to be. That's why they were subsequently blown up - no other reason. Unbridled9 posted... The Resistance 'wins' if they manage to successfully escape. Poe's actions not only delayed the FO by forcing them to fight and defend their ships, but walked away with a kill and a massively favorable K:D ratio. You managed to post an accurate first sentence, then completely took it apart with your second. Yeah, the Resistance's job was to escape. Not blow up the FO - escape, with as many of their ships intact as possible. Poe delayed the FO, yes... and also delayed his own ships by the same amount, because they could not flee while the fighters were still launched. The K/D ratio is completely immaterial because K/D is unimportant when you are in a controlled retreat and facing a massively numerically superior foe. This is exactly what I mean when I say "Understand the terms of victory". You're looking at a tactical retreat and treating it as though it were a pitched battle. Unbridled9 posted... Johnson repeatedly ignores what space is like in favor of his own narrative I think you mean "Star Wars repeatedly ignores what space is like in favour of its own narrative". This is an issue that long predates Johnson and I have full confidence it will continue to exist long after he leaves the franchise. Unbridled9 posted... Holdo's plan was to flee to a planet with the imperials actively firing on them, losing ships in the process, then pray that the imperials don't notice an entire evacuation down to a planet where they'd have no way off-world and PRAY that the FO doesn't have things like 'land forces' in the event that they do. And guess what? The plan worked. The Resistance was halfway through their evacuation and the First Order had completely missed them fleeing until DJ spilled the beans. Again, had Poe not been a fucking idiot, the Resistance likely would have made it planetside unmolested and with the entirety of their personnel intact. Unbridled9 posted... Why are you even bothering to defend the film? Rewatch it for christ's sake! Nothing about it makes sense and is just terrible throughout. Because these sorts of complaints are stupid and not well thought-out. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! <cite>darkknight109 posted [p:909871393] in Research F... [t:77060522]...</cite> <quote><cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>The reason they all got exploded wasn't because of Poe's actions</quote> Dude, the only reason they were there at all was because Poe told them to be. That's why they were subsequently blown up - no other reason. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>The Resistance 'wins' if they manage to successfully escape. Poe's actions not only delayed the FO by forcing them to fight and defend their ships, but walked away with a kill and a massively favorable K:D ratio.</quote> You managed to post an accurate first sentence, then completely took it apart with your second. Yeah, the Resistance's job was to escape. Not blow up the FO - escape, with as many of their ships intact as possible. Poe delayed the FO, yes... and also delayed his own ships by the same amount, because they could not flee while the fighters were still launched. The K/D ratio is completely immaterial because K/D is unimportant when you are in a controlled retreat and facing a massively numerically superior foe. This is exactly what I mean when I say "Understand the terms of victory". You're looking at a tactical retreat and treating it as though it were a pitched battle. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>Johnson repeatedly ignores what space is like in favor of his own narrative</quote> I think you mean "Star Wars repeatedly ignores what space is like in favour of its own narrative". This is an issue that long predates Johnson and I have full confidence it will continue to exist long after he leaves the franchise. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>Holdo's plan was to flee to a planet with the imperials actively firing on them, losing ships in the process, then pray that the imperials don't notice an entire evacuation down to a planet where they'd have no way off-world and PRAY that the FO doesn't have things like 'land forces' in the event that they do.</quote> And guess what? The plan worked. The Resistance was halfway through their evacuation and the First Order had completely missed them fleeing until DJ spilled the beans. Again, had Poe not been a fucking idiot, the Resistance likely would have made it planetside unmolested and with the entirety of their personnel intact. <cite>Unbridled9 posted...</cite> <quote>Why are you even bothering to defend the film? Rewatch it for christ's sake! Nothing about it makes sense and is just terrible throughout. </quote> Because these sorts of complaints are stupid and not well thought-out. --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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